I Love Meaningful Conversations

Having a meaningful conversation is harder than you think. When youre talking to someone or a group of people, how can we get them to read between lines and talk about things that have a deeper meaning rather than superficial talk? Supposing you wanted to get them to talk to u like they wanted ur opinion, not just talk about things that have no relevance, like jokes about someone else? I haven't had a meaningful conversation with anyone for a longish time.