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I strongly believe that those who still support Donald Trump are either white supremacists themselves or are at least accepting of it.
And I believe that those who are anti-choice don’t value the lives of women and girls. I reject the twisted analogy regarding choice between abortion and vaccinations. No one risks being infected by proximity to a pregnant woman.
@bijouxbroussard They scream about the "Right" to put whatever to put in their bodies, but now offer a bounty for women who choose what NOT to take out of their bodies. Utter hypocrites.
@bijouxbroussard Are choices between vaccinations and abortion being debated together? I think I have seen that and it's a false analogy. It's unfortunate, but I think the movement pressuring vaccination goes too far in suggesting those who don't are murderers, and those social conservative bring up how liberals are pro-choice (often) and bring up how abortion is in effect baby killers? I've seen that discussion and I find it a gross address together in issue; they simply don't compare.
@thewindupbirdchronicles Sorry, I disagree, it isn't a "false analogy"
@Grateful4you Then explain, why. As I will state I have no ownership over a woman's body to start with
@thewindupbirdchronicles I appreciate your lack of ownership over a womans body. People are dying because of the Delta variant and STILL people like Ron Desantis still promotes anti-vaxxers/maskers such a mind-set is so nefarious it's disgusting. People advocating No vaccines are passively promoting murder.
@Grateful4you I was more getting at, women who have abortions are committing murder? So very obvious considering where the topic started.
@thewindupbirdchronicles If abortion is “murder”, that says a cell cluster should have more rights than the girl or woman in whose body it exists. This places said girls and women in the category of human [b]incubators[/b] rather than human beings. In the US there are on the books at least 600 laws dictating what women can and can’t do with their own bodies. [b]Nothing[/b] comparable controls men’s behavior.
@bijouxbroussard Dont understand me as saying it is murder, ever.
@bijouxbroussard For men, it's always been a matter of passive- aggressive control. It goes back to biblical times when men argued over how much a woman should be purchased for.
@Grateful4you So then I will guess you view escorts as wrong? I personally, feel however one connects together is another matter, and women (or men) have that choice over their personal choices. How does this reflect into vaccinations?
@thewindupbirdchronicles Of course, I support escorts. Vaccines should be mandated the same as George Washington mandated vaccines on the army for small- pox, granted, there was no real cure for smallpox back then but still, it was his right to try and keep his army in the best health he could.,
@Grateful4you Then why compare the way you do? It's a new illness, relative of course, but I would suggest no one from indiscretion is ever committing murder directly.
@thewindupbirdchronicles Tell that to the hundreds who died from a barrage of disinformation.
@Grateful4you You, yourself, are now providing misinformation in my opinion. You did relate the two together and walked a fine line regressing from that and come back with that. Where I see people making choices.
@thewindupbirdchronicles "Never try and teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of time and annoy's the pig" Goodnight Sir.
@Grateful4you Reach for insults while I have been kind, shows your character. I merely provided banter that neither are murder.
@thewindupbirdchronicles Some of the anti-vaxxers here have compared their right to not be vaccinated or even to use protections like masks as a matter of “choice” or bodily autonomy in the same way that Roe v. Wade provided women with the choice to terminate pregnancies. I say that this analogy is flawed at best.
@bijouxbroussard I don't like mandated anything, in a way - but somehow, as a contrapation a mask is much like a condom, and if there was a government who said to men who are misogynist towards women, they have to wear a condom, I would support that. While really hoping it isn't needed.

This isn't the first pandemic we have dealt with, why is this one such a quagmire? Aids was one, still ongoing, and we have developed much greater understanding and I think this one itself just takes time which we are unfortunately not seeing much of, patience.
@bijouxbroussard I'm tired of beating my head into a wall. These people are frustrating!
@thewindupbirdchronicles Yes, I remember well the AIDS epidemic of the 80s and 90s and sadly, lost several friends (I imagine you did, too, Dave). Until we understood how that virus was being transmitted there was a lot of panic and uneasiness around other people, as well as actual discrimination against those in certain “categories”. Of course, we eventually realized AIDS wasn’t an airborne virus the way Covid is; much more intimate contact was required to transmit it to others.
@bijouxbroussard I was a little young in that time to really see that. But not young enough to not see flawed approaches which create stigma again. The approaches are much different in response yes, why I made the comparison of condoms and masks.
@bijouxbroussard True. My own little brother died from AIDS. As did a number of other friends. I'm Grateful many of us survived. Since I've always been a "top" I was never at risk.
@Grateful4you My condolences, my friend. Of the 12 members of the commune I was a part of in 1980, there remains one friend and yours truly. Besides the only other woman there who died in a car accident and one man who died from cancer in 1997, the others were all lost to AIDS and related illnesses. 😞
@bijouxbroussard I believe (Not some "heaven") there is a next plane of existence. Danny is in a good place now.