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Would you support universal basic income for women only?

I hear alot of worrying about couples not wanting to start a family because of financial stress.
I figure cutting women (and women only) a check every month would solve that. It'd also give them an option to stay home if they want.

Thoughts?

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Whodunnit · M

Where will this money come from?

You're potentially cutting your taxpaying workforce in half and then paying out more 'benefits' than ever. In which case taxes would have to rise to cover those costs (most likely income tax) and single working men would essentially be paying for other people to have children.

I'm sure your heart is in the right place but that's absolute lunacy.

It's not even as if the world is especially desperate for lots of extra children to be born. We've got more than enough people as it is.

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hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M

@Whodunnit Actually we are so far below replacement rate now we are in for a population collapse in a few years. That aside you are absolutely correct about the funny money needed to run the poster's scheme. Inflation would skyrocket and the people would soon be poorer than they are now.

Whodunnit · M

@MethDozer Freezing? 🤔

Whodunnit · M

@hippyjoe1955 Well, a little natural population reduction isn't such a such a bad thing in the short term. We are living a lot longer then we used to.

hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M

@Whodunnit And when you are older and in need of care who will provide it?

NoahB · 31-35, M

@Whodunnit why does everyone ask where the money is going to come from? we're like the richest nation in the world I'm sure we can cut the pentagons budget or something lol

MethDozer · M

@Whodunnit Dividends, duh.

NoahB · 31-35, M

@hippyjoe1955

And when you are older and in need of care who will provide it?

The mess of kids we made from giving women UBI. Doi!

Whodunnit · M

@hippyjoe1955 Well, I don't have kids, so my 'retirement plan' mainly consists of a trip to Switzerland and a visit to Dignitas if things get too sketchy, lol

MethDozer · M

@NoahB Well to be fair, people here are used to the middle class and poor class being killed with taxes to save the rich so.. while UBI is a good idea it's not unreasonable for the people it would benefit assume they will be paying for it mostly.

Whodunnit · M

@MethDozer Well, I'm not from the US so I have to confess I haven't a clue what Alaska is or isn't doing 🤷‍♂️

NoahB · 31-35, M

@MethDozer sad that people always assume the money for something good is always going to come from the orphan grinding machines. Grow an imagination people!

MethDozer · M

@Whodunnit ahh my bad.

If you're an Alaskan citizen you get cut a check each year that is paid for by a fee charged to resource extraction businesses. Basically the residents are entitled to this permanent fund that is funded by mineral and logging enterprises for extracting wealth from the land of the state. Last year the payout was around $3200 dollars to each citizen.

MethDozer · M

@NoahB It is sad, but that's how it always works out here so they aren't entitely wrong to assume status quo without a radical change in the system first.

Whodunnit · M

@MethDozer That's not a bad system actually. I guess the population is not huge though 🤔

NoahB · 31-35, M

@MethDozer radical changes require a radical plan which requires a radical imagination which requires fucking around with ideas like "heeeey... why *dont* we just cut a check to women?"

MethDozer · M

@NoahB Just cut a check for everyone instead of creating another social barrier between the sexes.

NoahB · 31-35, M

@MethDozer

MethDozer · M

@NoahB Actually this might help my dream of prostituting myself to lonely women as a career.

NoahB · 31-35, M

@MethDozer bro i'm trying to sleep in a hammock all day and send the hoe to work but everyone is fighting against my vision of a better world

MethDozer · M

@NoahB Just throwing this out there. If we both had UBI she could also stay home and give you hammock handies.

NoahB · 31-35, M

@MethDozer oh Alright,,,,,