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WhateverWorks · 36-40
Without laws to keep basic cost of living in ratio with minimum wage it would only result in further inflation
empanadas · 31-35, M
@WhateverWorks this
NoahB · 31-35, M
@WhateverWorks as long as our economy is based on companies 'turning a profit' than everything will eventually result in further inflation anyway. You're thinking outside of the scope of the question.
WhateverWorks · 36-40
I disagree. I believe laws could be implemented that monitor companies’ profit margins and how much they pay their employees within the tax filing process as a compromise. (I’m not saying it’ll ever happen though lol..)
At any rate, my point isn’t outside the scope of the question. I only explained why I don’t think the idea would help for more than a few months before The present mechanisms recalibrate to the same ongoing isdue.
@NoahB
At any rate, my point isn’t outside the scope of the question. I only explained why I don’t think the idea would help for more than a few months before The present mechanisms recalibrate to the same ongoing isdue.
@NoahB
NoahB · 31-35, M
@WhateverWorks
(I’m not saying it’ll ever happen though lol..)
lol tru
BlueVeins · 22-25
@WhateverWorks you could just fund the UBI with a tax to prevent inflation. No money would actually be entering the economy.
WhateverWorks · 36-40
@BlueVeins ehh. I’m not a fan of UBI. I think it’s important for every capable citizen to be required to contribute to the society they reap the benefits of, otherwise that society will eventually fall apart because it’s not a sustainable model.
BlueVeins · 22-25
@WhateverWorks there's been studies on this though. Most ppl continue working when they have a UBI because labor gives people a sense of purpose, and also most people prefer having more money to having less. Any system where ppl only contribute at the threat of starvation requires ground-up reform anyway.
WhateverWorks · 36-40
In the States there are a ton of resources for the homeless (depending on region), so starvation or dying on the street is mostly not a realistic concern unless you refuse to follow the rules (which are not unreasonable rules for the most part, except some of the super religious organizations that require conversion/practice) of those facilities/agencies, which offer shelter, food, semi-permanent housing, toiletries, case management to help Connect with employment/training/education etc, Child care, State insurance etc. @BlueVeins
BlueVeins · 22-25
@WhateverWorks Fair, but you get the point. People spend like, half their waking hours at work; it shouldn't be something you just suffer through to avoid food insecurity and homelessness, you know? There should be some form of utility a regular person can get from it to at least make it tolerable.
WhateverWorks · 36-40
I think we need more pathways for people to find vocations that they feel are existentially meaningful that are also within their skill set or potential skill set, but without that I don’t think a little extra money would help the stagnation cost you’re talking about long-term. It’s my biggest grievance with all the social programs in the States presently offer: they discount the significance of people feeling like they are living a meaningful life. They offer people a myriad of options that are dead ends then we act surprised when many people sit in complacency on programs, more willing to acclimate to having less, learning to not mind than the prospect of working for meaninglessness. @BlueVeins