Would you support universal basic income for women only?

@hippyjoe1955 okay, fine. then imagine the universal basic income would be paid out by your employer like insurance

@NoahB It doesn't matter where it comes from. It costs more than it benefits. Leave the money in the people's pockets and they will do better than filtering it through any agency. When taxes are low people prosper. When taxes are high the government becomes too powerful/interfering.

@hippyjoe1955 it wouldn't come out of peoples pockets it would come out of company profit margins. (money you aren't getting anyway)

@NoahB Which would come out of people's pockets as the cost of goods and services increases to cover the cost of paying people not to work. You have a very distorted idea of what money is and how it works. Sadly you are not alone.

@hippyjoe1955 lol yeah likewise

@NoahB You do know that money is an expression of wealth created by labor don't you? It is not a government issue that costs nothing to generate. Increasing the flow of money without increasing the production of labor and goods is what is known as inflation. Too much money chasing too few goods.

@hippyjoe1955 true
half true. Our currency is fiat. And the Federal reserve can (and historically does) print money constantly.
True but I'm not even talking about printing money. I'm talking about having companies offer an additional check to women as a benefit. in the same way as insurance is. lol

@NoahB Fiat currency has no intrinsic value. Only as it represents the wealth of goods and services provided does it have value. Anything issued by government not backed up by goods and services is little more than monopoly money. Look at any communist government in the world and you will see how quickly their money became worthless. Venezuela was so broke at one point it couldn't pay the printers to print more money.

@hippyjoe1955 look. I'm not getting into this with you lol. I didn't bring up printing money you did lol.
I said imagine it as an additional at work benefit

@NoahB So where do you think the money is going to come from when you are paying someone not to work?

@hippyjoe1955 Why are you being obtuse? the same pot the money comes from to pay out insurance companies for the insurance policies companies offer as a benefit.

@NoahB So you don't realize that the insurance payouts come from premiums paid? Remember all those years you bought insurance on your car and never had an accident or made a claim? Yeah that is where the money for the payouts come from. The insurance industry is not in the business of providing payouts. Its in the business of collecting more premiums than it pays out. If it has a huge payout it very rapidly increases premiums to recover their loss.

@hippyjoe1955 are you under the impression that companies pay nothing to insurance companies when they offer insurance as a benefit? lol bro you're wasting both our time here

@NoahB As are you with your silly idea of money for nothing. Money for nothing isn't worth the printing costs.

@hippyjoe1955 its not money for nothing dingus. its money for more kids!!

@NoahB No it is money for nothing. It will not cover the cost of printing it. It has been tried over and over again to no avail. Only when we allow people to be paid for their labors without stealing their gains for 'a purpose' will men and women do what comes natural and have babies. One husband and one wife is capable of producing enough wealth to have and raise children so long as the government does not take excess wealth away from them to achieve government aims. If the government is taking 50% of someone's income two people will have to work to make ends meet.

@hippyjoe1955 lol do you think companies offering health insurance is also 'THEFT' from their profits? You lost the script trying to go back to the government thing lol

@NoahB And they pass along their costs by increasing the cost of the insurance. Business is not a charity. When a business does its calculations on its cost of goods sold it includes all the costs its employees generate including the cost of benefits such as health insurance and pension plans. If they don't they won't stay in business for long.

@hippyjoe1955 if a company offered an additional check to my wife as a benefit I think I would be a very hard worker indeed

@NoahB then they would simply increase the cost of purchasing their goods or services. Companies don't have a magic source of money that no one knows about. Their income is derived by sales of goods and services at a price higher than the cost of producing said goods or services. They factor the cost of employee's benefits into the COG and put markup on it.

@hippyjoe1955 so??? It'd be a better quality good/service. People pay for those!!!

@NoahB It is simply inflationary. The money spirals toward worthless. Yes the cost goes up and the supply decreases. Far better to simply reduce the cost of government for everyone. Most of the government we have we don't need and of the useless part of the government most of it is bad for the people being governed. Cut the government to 10% of our economy and watch the people prosper and the babies being born. Far simpler than trying to redistribute wealth by state theft. Sadly part of your plan would require someone to collect and distribute the money to those whom you want to target.

@hippyjoe1955 okay let’s start the cuts with the military/defense and the intelligence spending

@NoahB Completely agree. That has to be one of the biggest wastes of money on the planet. Cut the government to 10% of the economy and watch what happens.

@hippyjoe1955 it’d be interesting to see. I’d move to Canada tho lol