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gender pronouns e/em/eir - ke ?

That's the sort of junk that Elon Musk uses to name his babies. 8-)

But seriously, what the eff do gender pronouns 'e' 'em' and 'eir' mean?
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butterflybaby75 · 46-50, F
All I can think of it's like saying 'them' or 'their' with the 'th' dropped almost to furhter ambiguise a person's gender non-identity. As if simply saying 'non-binary' isn't enough any more. I'm a 'she' so is 'e' a woman who's no longer identifying as (but still had body parts of from birth) a woman? Even god doesn't know the answer (proving god is not great and all-knowing).
@butterflybaby75 Well the idea is using pronouns for non-binary people. Right now, they use they/them/their. The ey/em/ei pronouns were coined as a replacement, which is much too confusing for me, so I still use they/them/their.

Bee tee dubs, ya know how the Fascists are always talking about how "transgenderism" is this new thing that woke woke woke woke?
These new pronouns were actually coined back in the seventies. Talk of trans issues has always been around.
@BohemianBoo [quote] trans issues has always been around. [/quote]

But not to the extent today. Honestly Michael Knowles was pretty harsh on the ideology. If you're a based trans person such as Blaire White all respect to you.
@BritishFailedAesthetic Yes and no. Throughout history, the acceptability of being trans has fluctuated, usually for political reasons.
And Blaire White is a grifter.
@BohemianBoo It's a modern thing, throughout history it's hard to know as no culture has tolerated it. No, she's sexy and smart, not a grifter.
@BritishFailedAesthetic Oh, sweety.
Please do some fact-checking on the things you hear in media. Trans people have always existed in cultures around the world. Many culture have recognized three genders too. Like with homosexuality and bisexuality, people have always been transitioning. It wasn't an issue until people in power decided to make it one.
@BohemianBoo Ok will look into it sugar pie. Lol.
@BritishFailedAesthetic Arm yourself. Knowledge is power.
@BohemianBoo So far I've learned it was spiritual "two spirit person" etc, very connected through the trees type stuff. Again, be who you are but don't expect kids who can't make decisions to tell you their identity, opposite gender today- dog, lion or cat tomorrow. It's upper middle/upper class parents who have "trans kids" because they want their little darlings to be special. Again, if you're an adult and you're trans, that's you.
@BritishFailedAesthetic The two-spirit gender was in Native American culture. In other cultures it was different because gender, being a social construct, is mostly about culture. The Balkan countries also have three genders.

[quote]opposite gender today- dog, lion or cat tomorrow.[/quote]

If that was the case, don't you think "transspecies" would also have been a thing for thousands of years?
And by the way, Conservatives said the same thing when gay people wanted rights. It was "If we recognize gay marriage, soon they'll want us to recognize marriage between humans and animals!" But no, never happened. Now they're recycling the argument. "If we recognize transgender people, soon they'll be identifying as animals!" It's so transparently fake.

[quote] It's upper middle/upper class parents who have "trans kids" because they want their little darlings to be special.[/quote]

Do you have any evidence of that?
@BohemianBoo Evidence- look at the parents. Please dont make me look like I said the animal reference about trans adults, it was about kids. Also, county, government buildings (don't know the equivalent in the US) that hold marriages should marry gay people but churches, mosques, etc have every right to decline a gay marriage if it feels it goes against their beliefs.
@BritishFailedAesthetic "Look at the parents" isn't evidence. Maybe you can find an example here or there, but that's anecdotal.

I know you didn't mean that about adults, but it's pretty much the same argument when used with kids. There are kids who have gender dysphoria. There are no kids that have species dysphoria.

TBH, I think a private business should be allowed to discriminate however they want as long as they aren't getting government benefits. But in America, religious companies have tax exempt status.
@BohemianBoo "Species dysphoria" ? We are homosapiens evolved from primates in the ape family, that is scientific fact. Lots of religious institutions do alot of good for the community at least in the UK- food banks, helping parents of disabled children connect etc, etc. Not all churches are like Greg Locke, Benny Hinn, Joyce Meyer, T.D. Jakes, Joel Osteen, etc.
@BritishFailedAesthetic Yeah, but the point is that there is no equivalent to gender dysphoria. So if a kid has the symptoms, parents should take it seriously.

I don't know if religious institutions have tax exempt status in the UK. I'm just saying that because they have it in America, they shouldn't be allowed to discriminate. Now, if they ever lose their tax exempt status, which I think they should, then they should be allowed to discriminate, as should any private business.
@BohemianBoo They are tax exempt and they have every right to be and to follow beliefs. If they choose like the people mentioned to make it a prosperity gospel type place they should pay tax.
Sharon · F
@BritishFailedAesthetic [quote]We are homosapiens evolved from primates in the ape family, [/quote]
We're still primates - more specifically a species of Great Ape.