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@Queendragonfly You're so brave - how have you suffered under "white phobia?"

@LeopoldBloom I don't appreciate your tone.

@Queendragonfly I don't appreciate you acting like equality for other people amounts to you suffering oppression. "White phobia," like "white genocide," isn't a thing. Get back to me when white people don't hold the majority of positions of power in government, academia, and religion in this country.

@LeopoldBloom First of all. Breathe. In. And out.

Now. Don't put words in my mouth. I have never spoken about a white ethnic group as oppressed. So right now you're having a discussion with yourself.

If you can't keep your calm I will not be interested in engaging further. Sorry. Not gonna be your daily boxing bag of choice.

@Queendragonfly You literally used the term "white phobia." If it's not having an effect, why bring it up?

There is no such thing as "white phobia." What you're reacting to is that more people are becoming aware of the systemic racism that has pervaded our society since its founding.

@Queendragonfly I have never encountered or read/heard from "white phobia" outside of maybe whiny white supremacist circles. It doesn't exist.

@Gloomy White phobia the term is made up by OP yes. But the behaviour it stands for isn't made up and isn't just extreme opinions from racists or white supremacy groups.

Think like this. Why would discrimination behaviours not be common among all people?

@Queendragonfly So could you name some examples?

Yes discriminatory behaviour is something that happens in all societies and against white people might be something that occurs in homogenous societies such as Japan but even there it's mainly against foreigners who don't know the language and customs.

@Gloomy I could say that against black activists too! Wait a minute not only the saying is true, but I did say we’re racist. it is wrong to elevate the black race above any race. I am also talking about elevating any race above any other race is wrong. We should all be equal

@Gloomy All white jokes or talk about white stereotypes are socially accepted while no other ethnic group talk is.

@specman but that's just not what black activists are doing (maybe some extreme examples exist).
White power structures are being torn apart or at least shaken up and now there are people fearing some black supremacy which is a baseless claim.

@Queendragonfly That has something to do with power hierarchies. Would there be no pre-existing history and no hierarchies jokes about all ethnic groups would be ok or none of them would be ok.

@specman
Precisely.

@Gloomy Right now there's either racists or people who justifies "white phobia" as in they automatically assume anyone who hos white is racist or a bad person and so they treat them as such or even think that because white people have been superior we deserve to know how it feels or some other vengeful bs point is its wrong.

@Gloomy you cannot even disagree with a black person without being declared a racist white supremacy person. And crt and dei is part of the woke movement and racist behavior is being taught.

@Queendragonfly Please that's fragile. There is no broader either direct or underlying notion that anyone who is white is racist 🙄

@specman It entirely depends on what, why and how you disagree.
CRT is an academic field many don't understand and "woke" is a term now only used by right winger to describe anything they don't like.
Bringing up crt without naming specific issues you have with it is an empty argument derived from a mere talking point.

@Gloomy black people can disagree with other races not just white people any way they want. And to act as if you don’t think or know the racist behavior that is being taught in the woke movements of crt and dei that’s bs.

@specman please you can't even name what those "racist" things are in Crt. Realizing that there are structures in place, past and present that affect minorities in a certain way is not anti-white.
The "woke-movement" is such a new term only coined in order to discredit black,queer and left leaning activism and research that has existed for a long time already but is now used as a scapegoat in order for the right to gain popularity.

@specman Yes that doesn't happen. If learning about your countries racist history makes you ashamed of being white that's on you. The desired effect is wanting to do better.
Why do you want to ignore systemic issues?

@Gloomy wrong and being white doesn’t make me feel ashamed to be white. You ever hear of Liberia? If all the black people that have direct descendants that were actually slave( which all black people don’t have direct descendants that were slaves) the US government back then offered to take them to Liberia which was founded or something by black slaves. They had a choice to go or stay. If they were truly unhappy with there situation after being freed why did they stay?

@specman so far you have proven to posses zero knowledge on crt so you can't make that assesment.
Many different reasons also many of the generations of slaves never even knew a different country and don't pretend like this was such a generous act and racist policies and violence continued a long time after slavery was abolished.

You are not making a good or valid argument here.

@Gloomy I'm not taking about breaking apart white supremacy though. I'm talking about common everyday discrimination towards ethnic groups, and in this case, the white group.

@Queendragonfly and you believe white jokes to be this big widespread everyday thing?

@Gloomy
According to you. One single person
Ask around your white fellow people and see for yourself.

You judge every white person who's against ethnic discrimination as extreme or white supremacist, that's incredibly ignorant of you and exactly the type of stereotypes I as a white person get blamed for. You're the example of the problem. Can you even look at a white person without automatically going "Entitled" in your mind?


It shouldn't be to anyone's suprise that no ethnic group is immune to harassments, bad stereotypes, and discrimination. It's not human possible.

The problem is you're so blinded by white vs black and white as the enemy that you judge that ethnicity entirely and justify discrimination.

You can do it. What makes you think others can't?