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‘There should be more women in STEM’

1. Complain about sexism with lack of women in STEM and encourage ladies to take non STEM gender studies courses to learn about how sexism prevents ladies doing STEM

2. Said ladies takes gender studies degree instead of STEM and learns about this alleged sexism and tell even more ladies they can learn all about, and fight, this sexism by taking a gender studies degree rather a STEM degree which means even less women are now taking up STEM

Cycle back to stage 1 and repeat

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I have never seen anyone encourage someone to take gender studies,what lmao
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@PepsiColaP well, gender studies does complain about lack of women in stem, and well, for each lady taking a gender studies degree is one less taking a stem degree.
@pianoplayingsteve where are you getting all that from?
First of all gender studies are a post grad , and it involves many different fields such as politics ,social studies ,psychology ,etc. Many of which fields used to be heavily gendered themselves only a few decades ago.
Secondly those people will go on to reshape a lot of policy making in a micro and macro level. So yeah they are useful for women in stem if that is part of the campaigning lmao
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@PepsiColaP aka HR department jobs aka NKVD!!! Next thing you know there will just be a hammer and sickle flag in the lunch area! America wont turn red in my life time!!!
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@pianoplayingsteve I dunno if you've ever been unemployed, but it sounds like you haven't. Believe me, I have never had a conversation with HR that went "overthrow the bourgeoisie". In fact usually they're on the boss's side.
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@basilfawlty89 how does one go about sounding like they’ve not been unemployed in this context?
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@pianoplayingsteve because you've clearly never dealt with HR if you think they're on the side of the workers.
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@basilfawlty89 my point sort of was that they aren’t. Lol
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@pianoplayingsteve maybe sarcasm doesn't translate over the internet so well. It sounded like you were implying HR is far left, which, no, they really aren't.
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@basilfawlty89 I’d say they are some sort critical theory plant that does much more to harm workers than good
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@pianoplayingsteve you smoke strange things. If they were based in Critical Theory, they'd be against the bosses, because hierarchical power structures are against the ideals of Critical Theory.
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@basilfawlty89 well that would be paradoxical because the school that created critical theory would be hierarchical
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@pianoplayingsteve oh God...you're one of those.

Okay, to quote Bakunin, in matters of shoemaking I defer to the cobbler, in matters of architecture, I defer to the architect, but that doesn't mean they have a right to control my life, make my decisions or take the surplus value from the product I create.
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@basilfawlty89 I am one of what mr fawlty? Any more of that and I’ll have someone come to your hotel and impersonate a lord having you destroy your business trying to impress him.
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@pianoplayingsteve you're that guy that when people rebelled against feudalism said that if you take part in the feudal system (to possibly avoid starvation) then you are a feudalist yourself.

It doesn't make sense and literally misses the point and context. The point of Critical Theory is hierarchies that can't justify itself, need to be abolished. Someone being an expert on their field is not a unjustified hierarchy.
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@basilfawlty89 no, you have to work within whatever system is the dominant one if you in fact wish to change that system. So which hierarchy in particular do you think can’t be justified? Can you name one?
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@pianoplayingsteve the hierarchical workspace, capitalism and the state.
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@basilfawlty89 so all of humanity?
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@pianoplayingsteve how do you arrive to that premise? Humanity existed long before capitalism or the state.
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@basilfawlty89 capitalism is the fee exchange of resources. The state is a concentrating of resources into a central organisation. What’s the other option?
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@pianoplayingsteve capitalism isn't free in the slightest, see Proudhon's critique of it. In fact, the only way for a fully free market is if workers collectively owned businesses that competed against one another.

Name me one successful example of a fully free market capitalist state in history.

It's like you kids think there's only Soviet communism and capitalism and never bothered to read about Anarchism.
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@basilfawlty89 okay I’ll YouTube him tomorrow. Have you a book recommendation of his?

Well no I can’t because I believe in a mixed economy
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@pianoplayingsteve I could give you YouTube links, but, food for thought, maybe read this https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-the-conquest-of-bread
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@basilfawlty89 thanks will read tomorrow it’s late :) trust me I’m the absolute opposite of ‘you are either red team or blue team’ when it comes to politics, economics all day. I like to update my views of things just for the fun of it. If the other person is polite I’ll read an entire book that argues their position and I’ll change my views where I see fit. I just care about what’s true, not which side is the bad guy team