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GuidanceCounselor · 56-60, M
Why not
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Luke73 · 26-30, M
@GuidanceCounselor For progress you need change. And to change things you need to do things differently than before. And if you have different things, that means diversity.
GuidanceCounselor · 56-60, M
@Luke73 I prefer competency over virtue signalling
Luke73 · 26-30, M
@GuidanceCounselor That doesn’t make sense. Competency can‘t decide progress because you can’t be competent in something new, you need to learn it first. Plus progress isn’t something people decide. It’s something that „society“ decides.
GuidanceCounselor · 56-60, M
@Luke73 that sounded better in your head
Luke73 · 26-30, M
@GuidanceCounselor How it sounds doesn’t change how true it is ;)
GuidanceCounselor · 56-60, M
@Luke73 yes it was jibberrish
Luke73 · 26-30, M
@GuidanceCounselor Who do you think would do better? A business that only offers one very specific product? Or another business with a diverse range of products?
GuidanceCounselor · 56-60, M
@Luke73 I prefer vetted, competent candidates for jobs. Diversity is unimportant.
Luke73 · 26-30, M
@GuidanceCounselor So you want to hire the same person 10 times if they’d be the most competent?
GuidanceCounselor · 56-60, M
@Luke73 you aren't making any sense
Luke73 · 26-30, M
@GuidanceCounselor You aren’t. Diversity is the key for new ideas.
GuidanceCounselor · 56-60, M
@Luke73 no diversity is a liberal codeword for racial and gender quotas.
Luke73 · 26-30, M
@GuidanceCounselor When did I ever say anything about race or gender?
GuidanceCounselor · 56-60, M
@Luke73 your codeword diversity
Luke73 · 26-30, M
@GuidanceCounselor Diversity can include but is not limited to those. It means:
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the fact of many different types of things or people being included in something; a range of different things or people
b) the fact that there are many different ideas or opinions about something
GuidanceCounselor · 56-60, M
@Luke73 uh huh
Luke73 · 26-30, M
@GuidanceCounselor So again, where in the definition is race and gender mentioned?
GuidanceCounselor · 56-60, M
@Luke73 what is your diversity goals? Who decides if you are diverse enough? What is the criteria?
Luke73 · 26-30, M
@GuidanceCounselor That’s not something that can be measured. As soon as you put a metric on it, the opposite thing will happen. It’s something that has to happen from within. People need to want diversity for it to work.
GuidanceCounselor · 56-60, M
@Luke73 invalidates your argument
Luke73 · 26-30, M
@GuidanceCounselor And why would it invalidate my argument?
GuidanceCounselor · 56-60, M
@Luke73 if diversity is not measurable it is by definition virtue signalling
Luke73 · 26-30, M
@GuidanceCounselor It’s as measurable and the metric is as useful as with other things like experience, knowledge, competency, understanding of something, …
GuidanceCounselor · 56-60, M
@Luke73 welcome to my side of the argument. You have abandoned your original premise.
Luke73 · 26-30, M
@GuidanceCounselor But things can still be important even if you can’t measure them. And my statement was never about a measurable metric but about a precondition.
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