Trying to decide what someone else's boundaries should be is exactly why boundaries exist.

And they're not up to you.
That pull towards cohesion.
That desire to control and bend the world to your will and to your understandings.
That fear for yourself worded as love.
That self- deceit driven to deceive others into reflecting your own comfortable beliefs about them.

They are all reasons why boundaries exist. They offer balance you might lack to consider measuring others' lives by your own limited complexities.

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thrash · 31-35, M

thats all good and well

but what about instances where people expect others to accept their subjective boundaries as 'objective', lest i be objectively/legally harmed. such people cant cite 'respect personal boundaries' arguments-- that'd be pure hypocrisy: they impose upon my own boundaries and demand to accept them! but i only accept truth?? and they say accept their feelings or i am a villain???? after which they head out to burn teslas

Miram · 31-35, F

@thrash

Your problems with subjectivity are just as subjective and arbitrary,if not more, compared to self- definitions.

It is simple, you don't like how they see themselves? Leave them alone. Why so much emphasis on something that is not in your control. Walk out!

thrash · 31-35, M

@Miram walking out isn't always an option when their self-definitions demand my compliance. if someone insists i accept their claim as fact under threat of legal or social consequence, am i still the one emphasizing it too much? or am i just resisting coercion?

thrash · 31-35, M

@Miram also, i find it offensive that youd label my subjectivities as arbitrary and [invalid]. you dont even know what i think. and why they are valid.

i can only conclude that you subscribe to a philosophy that considers all philosophies as more or less arbitrary. like a soft version of nihlism or smth. which is understandable but too defeatist-esque for my taste.. you can indulge in defeatism if you like but dont expect me to partake: there are many things wrong with the world: there is an ideal way to live, and it isn’t achievable via "everyone's truth is valid, even if it isnt".

Miram · 31-35, F

@thrash

This is another situation where you should walk away instead of baiting someone online to silly arguments about things you're uncomfortable with. It is not my problem. Good luck with your antagonisms.

thrash · 31-35, M

@Miram i like what i like 🤷‍♂