man or bear

@seaglass So is a man.

Ok, @Spoiledbrat

@Torsten I never said "most". But when they do it's usually in isolated areas.

Only an ignorant person would go traipsing through the woods without proper protection from both bears and strange, lone men. Especially in Jan and Feb, concerning mother bears protecting cubs.

You are wrong this time. I've seen bears in the wild. The ones near my area are fairly easy to spook off without even using bear-spray or a firearm. And they're never carrying bear spray or firearms, unlike men.

@seaglass i know you never, im just asking if that is your opinion.

well that is not so much as true. You have many experienced hikers who have ended up lost or a injury has occurred and they are stuck. I mean anything can happen.

yes you can spook a bear but that doesnt mean that will happen all the time. You could come across a starving bear or cubs. You come across either, you aint spooking your way out of it and i say cubs cause everyone knows or should know that you stay as far away from cubs as you possibly can and if you are in a bears territory and she has cubs, you most likely wouldnt even have time to think how to get out of that situation. That bear would be looking to kill and even with bear spray or a fire arm,you are still in a whole world of trouble.

if you came across a man however, yeah you have that extremely slim chance that he just so happen to be a rapist. You have a much better chance of fighting him off than you do a bear

@Torsten If spooking doesn't work, there are backup measures that I noted which have proven effective time and again. Far more women are assaulted and killed by men than bears where I live. Men are proven the most dangerous animal worldwide and have killed far more women than bears have, without a doubt.

@seaglass because far more women are around men a lot more than they evrr will be around bears. If women were around bears as much as they are men, the bear attacks would rise dramatically.

So women never assault men or sexually harass men? what about all those female teachers who have had relationships with students? Women seem to love talking about a small minority of men who assault women and yet act as though all women are saints, and before you try to argue that, remember the whole "believe all women" nonsense?

personally i think men are far safer being far away from women. Women can ruin a mans life with a lie.

@Torsten And if all the women moved into the woods, men would follow and do what they do outside of the woods.

I never said women don't assault men. The divergence from your topic at hand is not an effective defense.

I could have guessed that would be your opinion, lol

@seaglass no men would not follow. Women would come back pretty fast when they realize just how much they truly need men in a society to function

once again i am asking questions. I am not claiming you said anything. I am trying to figure out your warped way of thinking.

yeah its a smart opinion. men should do what they can to protect themselves from women and i am not talking about violence here. Men need to protect themselves in different ways to what a women should do when it comes to men

@Torsten If women decided to go and stay, men would follow, believe me. Biology would demand it.

What you are trying to do is change the subject unsuccessfully and becoming insulting when you can't get it done.

Finally, something we can agree on :) I think this is good stopping point. Stay safe!

@seaglass sure you would have simps and other men maybe in relationships already with those women but i guarantee you that women would come back way before men went there.
Also most women would not even agree to such a idea.

Im not insulting at all. You are claiming i am saying you have said certain things and i am not. I am asking questions and its not a different subject at all. You said men are the most dangerous animals and cam eto that conclusion seemingly based off the small minority of men who attack women, so I made sure to point out that women also do horrendous shit to men. So maybe instead of this claim that men are the most dangerous animal, you could just say humans are.

@seaglass how can you honestly know that when men will not report assault on them most of the time when it comes at the hands of a female?
Men wont report and women lie. There really is no sound way of knowing with full certainty here

@seaglass well now you're bringing murder into this and thats different. I agree with you when it comes to murder, men tend to do that way more often.
When it comes to domestic abuse, sexual abuse and so on though, there really is no sound way of knowing because again, men do not report most of the time when being assaulted by women and women lie about being assaulted and before you go on the defense with that, I am not saying all female victims lie about being assaulted by men. What i am saying is that certain women lie about being assaulted by men and they are believed and the man is found guilty. So with both sides in mind with that, how can anyone really know the statistics on this?.

With murder, yes you have a point. With sexual assault and assault in general, you cant prove your point

@seaglass ohh and well i certainly could spin this to say women murder far more than men ever will and that comes to abortions. But we dont need to go into a abortion debate.

@Torsten What do you think leads to murder in DV. Hint: It's in the name.

Why are you suggesting I need to prove anything to you? My original reply to your post is to denote that the evil that men do to women and men is worse to live or die through than a potentially rare bear attack.

@Torsten

No, we don't. You'll have to make a separate post if you want to diverge even further from your original question.

@seaglass most domestic violence does not end in murder is my point. So that does not set the bar as the norm.

Where did i say you need to prove anything to me? I said you cant prove your point. There is a big difference there. Yes i know what the original reply is but normally when conversations take place, the topic tends to shift. Thats how conversations work. dont like that or want to continue, just stop replying for all i care

@seaglass already made abortion threads and they go absolutely no where

@Torsten The point is, I proved my point. If not to you, that's fine with me.

@seaglass you didnt but okay haha

@Torsten I did but okay haha

@seaglass wrong. For someone who acts like they dont even wanna talk, you certainly do have trouble not replying

@Torsten Oh, dear... does your fragile ego need the last word? Prove it by taking now