If you are not married, why arent you?

@Torsten Exactly. My ex got the kids, 75% of our shared assets, and 30% of my gross. If women want marriage to be a thing, they either need to change the laws or find stupid men. The smart ones aren't participating in that shit anymore.

@IronHamster sorry To hear that mate. I was engaged and lost everything including kid for a while. I cant imagine how much worse it could get if married.
You're correct though, More men are completely against marriage now because we all realize it is not smart at all for men now

@Torsten You know it works both ways?

@Ozymandiaz yeah but the law always seems to be more beneficial for women now

@Ozymandiaz The laws had to change with gay marriage and people confused about their genders, so the lawyers naturally decided whoever makes more money is the "man" they can abuse to gleen the most wealth from.

@Torsten And if you can't pay, it's off to jail after being labeled a "deadbeat." Who needs the risk?

@graphite I havent heard of that happening before but shouldnt be surprised really. the risks are too great to take

@Torsten Guys who fall behind in child support or alimony, even if they are unable to work, can find themselves in the slammer. If you lose your job, good luck getting a reduction in the amounts owed.

@graphite ahh yep I get ya now