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Did you know that the only way to embed a flat torus in 3D space preserving distance is to make the surface fractal?

i.e. infinitely crinkly. A flat torus is more or less... well you've encountered them in games before. If you imagine a rectangle, and if you go through the top you come out of the bottom, and vice versa, and if you go through the left you come out the right and vice versa. This is essentially a flat representation of a torus (doughnut shape). Can be topologically distorted in any way but here we actually want to preserve distances. But what ends up happening is that the line that goes around the long way ends up lengthening, and the line that goes around the center ends up shortening, with respect to the flat torus that it should be identical to with respect to its distance preservation. So what we do is we crinkle the surface, and keep crinkling the surface, and keep crinkling the surface, until the lengths are equal. It's not truly a fractal, but it uses the same iterative procedure as one, but it stops at a finite level (otherwise the lines would be infinitely long!
cloudsoflife
ok. I'm no mathematician. But. You said flat. Then you said crinkly. flat != crinkly. eh?
TetrisGuy · 26-30, M
You didn't understand. We're embedding the flat torus (2D) in 3D space, as it is essentially the same thing but in 2D space. BUT in order to preserve distances, we have to crinkle the surface. The flat surface is an arbitrarily large but finite rectangle that we're turning into a torus (just look up rectangle to torus on google images and it becomes immediately apparent what I'm saying). But when we're doing that, we distort the distances. So in order to preserve distance, we have to crinkle it (corrugate it, really) in a particular way. Topology allows us to do this and allow it to remain the same thing.
cloudsoflife
That's the kind of statement I always hated in maths lol. typography allows us to do this. It's great when you understand why. But until then you're locked out. Thanks for reminding me I do have an interest though :)
sassycookie
*stabs self in eyes with toothpicks* ..now I don't have to read that.
TetrisGuy · 26-30, M
I put it in layman terms :P
MrHazeinCherubsGrace
MrHazeinCherubsGrace
Yeah that's sad...I heard something fishy surrounding his death..like shortly before he died he made some kind of amazing discovery...but then again whenever anyone dies the rumour mill starts churning.
TetrisGuy · 26-30, M
Yeah it's likely a rumor. Even if it is true, it's likely a coincidence, since his health was deteriorating anyway.
MrHazeinCherubsGrace
Sure..BUT then again that's the perfect coverup! Oooo conspiracyyyyyyyyy!!!!
dlrannie
Surely everyone knows that - lol
TetrisGuy · 26-30, M
Of course they do!
dlrannie
:)
TetrisGuy · 26-30, M
Anyone that doesn't love math either hasn't experienced real math, or is mentally ill somehow :P
QueenPeach
Interesting
TetrisGuy · 26-30, M
Of course it is--it's topology! It's so fascinating <3

 
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