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Science can't predict weather 4 days in advance; correctly.

And it estimates the age of fossils. Don't know which one is more accurate.
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Notanymore · 36-40, M
And out come the keyboard scientist that will "prove" you wrong with shit someone else said and they don't really understand.
ElRengo · 70-79, M
@Notanymore
What would be a refreshing alternative to also keyboard anti scientific bs.
Notanymore · 36-40, M
@ElRengo they're both equally bleh
ElRengo · 70-79, M
@Notanymore
But had and have quite diferent results.
I still preffer the scientific "bleh" than the other one.
@Notanymore You mean it's wrong of me to mention how every lunar and solar eclipse timing is predicted - to the second - decades ahead of time if I don't understand the physics of the three body problem?

You mean it's wrong of me to mention how the New Horizon spacecraft made a predicted rendezvous with Pluto after nine years and five billion kilometers of flight if I don't understand the dynamics of the gravitational slingshots it used?

You mean it's wrong of me to mention how the cesium fountain clock is accurate to 1 in 10^-15 if I don't understand the quantum mechanics of laser confinement?

Is it also wrong of me to use GPS for navigation if I don't understand the general relativity corrections used to sync orbital clocks with earthbound clocks??
Notanymore · 36-40, M
@ElwoodBlues what are you trying to do here boss? Educate me? Impress me?
TheOrionbeltseeker · 36-40, M
@ElwoodBlues These lunar and solar eclipse predictions are not new. People predicted that when they started a 24 hour clock and 365 year day. Not trying to impress you but I expected much more than this after 2000 years.

After these 2000 whole years, if someone can't predict the weather over a few upcoming days, I don't have much hopes from them.
@TheOrionbeltseeker Can you predict the flip of a single coin?
ElRengo · 70-79, M
@TheOrionbeltseeker
You may perhaps get some idea of why it´s easier to predict some phenomena than others reading about the concept of physical degrees of freedom.
ElRengo · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues Of course not. Science do not predicate on single events but makes enough good about "natural" kinds.
@TheOrionbeltseeker You may perhaps get some idea of why it´s easier to estimate some phenomena vs others by learning about the standard deviation of the mean. Folks often criticize climate science by referring to weather predictions, not realizing that the average of a million unpredictable rainstorms per year worldwide becomes fairly predictable. BTW, I majored in physics as an undergrad; I'm quite familiar with degrees of freedom.
ElRengo · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues
"I'm quite familiar with degrees of freedom."
My friend, I can see you are.
I was answering that to @Johnconnor
"You may perhaps get some idea of why it´s easier to estimate some phenomena vs others by learning about the standard deviation of the mean."
I also have "some" familiarity with the above and agree.
TheOrionbeltseeker · 36-40, M
@ElwoodBlues @ElRengo I don't have any questions from both of you gentlemen. I had to say my thing and I have said. And learnt a thing or more from you guys.

But still, I don't blindly believe in anything.
@ElRengo Yeah, sorry, I misdirected my comment and have corrected.
ElRengo · 70-79, M
@TheOrionbeltseeker
Thank you and best wishes.
By the way not believing blindly is also in the root of the scientific attitude.
ElRengo · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues
We are sometimes saying almost the same from each one´s perspective.