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So how do Creationists explain Vestigial structures?

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hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
My medical research friend laughs at vestigial structures. They are often important part of a well functioning body.
Bushranger · 70-79, M
@hippyjoe1955 But we can live quite well without them and sometimes better without them.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Bushranger My mother had all her teeth removed when she was 40. She lived until she was 93. Were her teeth vestigial structures?
Bushranger · 70-79, M
@hippyjoe1955 No, another silly statement from you. Are you denying that there are some organs and skeletal structures that don't have the same function they have in other animals. vestigial hind limbs in some whales are one example.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Bushranger] Not silly at all. You said people can live without them. Yours is the silly statement.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@hippyjoe1955 Evolutionary theory doesn’t say that vestigial characteristics have no function. A structure can be vestigial and functional at the same time. It is vestigial not because it’s functionless, but because [i]it no longer performs the function for which it evolved[/I]

We can live without teeth, and we can live without legs. That doesn't mean that they're vestigial... they still perform the function for which they evolved.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@newjaninev2 Says someone who is looking for life in the rings of Saturn. Seek help.
Bushranger · 70-79, M
@hippyjoe1955 The appendix is often cited as a vestigial organ. There is research to suggest that it still has a role in rebooting good bacteria in the gut after infections etc. In herbivores, the appendix plays a role in digestion and is much larger than in humans, therefore, the appendix no longer plays the role that it probably did originally. It still plays a role, but one not as important as previously. Many people live without their appendix, so any current beneficial properties aren't all that necessary. Lack of an appendix doesn't mean that a person will have more gut infections, etc, it just means they no longer have an appendix.

Now, teeth. They still perform the function for which they evolved. We can live without them, but normally they are replaced with dentures to perform the same function as the original. Just a slight difference, not.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Bushranger and my medical research friend says it is an important part of the body. Yes the body can get along without it (mine was removed many years ago) but that like missing teeth getting along without it is not indicative of anything.
Bushranger · 70-79, M
@hippyjoe1955 OK, you and your friend have your opinions about the appendix. I guess that because you both believe that the appendix is not vestigial, then no other vestigial structures exist.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@hippyjoe1955 [quote]it is an important part of the body[/quote]

and yet after it is removed, the body is unaffected. So it's 'important', yet insignificant?
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Bushranger She has several doctorates and is researching the immune system and how to repair auto immune diseases. I take her word long before some self professed expert on SW.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@newjaninev2 If you lost your nose you could live without noticeable effect. Vestigial?
Bushranger · 70-79, M
@hippyjoe1955 Fine, I'm not disputing her qualifications or field of study. I'm making the point that you seem to be saying that because of the appendix, there are no other vestigial structures. Or are you going to disagree with me.
@newjaninev2 Well i really want to say some people don't have a brain and they are still functioning. hehe
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Bushranger What I am saying is as my friend explained to me. She discovered that when she dropped the viewpoint of evolution and nonsense like vestigial structures and thought instead of design and how the body functions as a whole designed, created unit she made several recognized breakthroughs in her field of research.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@hippyjoe1955 [quote]If you lost your nose[/quote]

I'll repeat (I'll type it slowly for you)

Evolutionary theory doesn’t say that vestigial characteristics have no function. A structure can be vestigial and functional at the same time. It is vestigial not because it’s functionless, but because [i]it no longer performs the function for which it evolved[/i]
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@canusernamebemyusername Looking in a mirror? Actually there are some people who lack a major part of their brain and some of them are very very high functioning.
Bushranger · 70-79, M
@hippyjoe1955 So there are no vestigial structures anywhere in nature, is that what you are saying?
@newjaninev2 But! He doesn't believe in evolved. That is the key.