Is VHS considered old?

@NankerPhelge I guess some movies they felt never had enough money in it to reformat it cds. I have a bunch of old tapes that You can;t get in dvd form so I know the pain

@Firespirit I really don't get it. Let us suppose a specific movie sold 101,713 copies on VHS. There's 101,713 ready-made sales for the DVD reissue. Also, remember that in the case of an age-restricted movie there were those who weren't old enough to legally buy it then, and after all these years there were as yet unborn babies who are now 18 or older. All that could result in an additional 82,219 sales on top of the 101,713 already mentioned, making a total sale of nearly 200,000. Am I really the only person logical enough to realise that, and are the video companies really that stupid as not to?

@NankerPhelge They are all about the money. Another factor could be the film is to dated for a newer audience or the original fan/era It was made in was a more lax time and would not fly with today's audience such as some jokes and characters like nigger jim for example

@Firespirit My last reply was all about the money the companies don't seem to realise they are missing out on. In my eyes, movies are never "dated" and I still like the ones I liked 25 years ago as much as I still like the ones I liked 40 years ago. People don't just go off something just like that, especially not where their favourite actresses are concerned. Besides, so-called "jokes" using the n-word are about as funny as a plane crash. I don't see how anybody could find that kind of thing entertaining.

@NankerPhelge The thing is trying to get a newer audience sure the old fans are there but the older generations are not where they cna make lots of money there is no toy market and These films could be tied up in contracts or licensing and would cost more than they are worth to buy such a thing out.

@NankerPhelge Usually it has to do with getting the copyright clearances at this point.

@Firespirit If someone bought a movie with Linda Blair in it, they bought it because Linda Blair is in it, regardless of how old or new it is. If someone bought a movie with Karen Black in it, they bought it because Karen Black is in it, regardless of how old or new it is. If someone bought a movie with Tara Reid in it, they bought it because Tara Reid is in it, regardless of how old or new it is. Need I say more?

@MethDozer If they already reissued certain movies released by one company, they can reissue ALL the movies released by that company because the copyright holders would be the same company. They are just being deliberately awkward just to see how many people they can piss off.

@NankerPhelge Indeed But trying to get past all the red tape is again a problem for these older films

@Firespirit Then why did they reissue some of them but not others? How did they decide which ones to choose for re-release and which ones to deliberately sabotage? Why are they so goddamn sometimesy about it? What happened to their good old-fashioned all-or-nothing attitude that's as black and white as the first movie ever made? 🤔

@NankerPhelge That died and now we got a industry that only cares about money and not quality as shown by the majority of modern movies

@NankerPhelge You're using faulty math here.

@MethDozer What do you mean? If you are talking about the figures in my early comment (101,713 or 82,219), those were hypothetical figures to simply illustrate my point. What is faulty about any of my comments?

@Firespirit The video-buying public care about what they personally want and they are prepared to pay for whatever movies they want to own on DVD. All the more reason for the companies to make them available so that they can make the precious money they care so much about. Whatever you or MethDozer may think, I am still being as logical as I can about this.

@NankerPhelge If a movie sold 101,713 VHS copies in 1985 that does not in any way equate to a resonable expectation that a similar number of copies will sell in a digital format in 2017. People die, people lose interest, Public taste in movies changes.

That's all moot. With some of the older movies, especially of the 60s to 80s copyright clearances can be hard to get. Especially in every country. The movies you mention might be and likely are released in another country on new formats. The way some contracts worked or how they got transferred can sometimes mean that multiple people or groups have to be paid and sign off on it or that it's damn near impossible to contact the holders. It can often be a very convoluted and complex web to navigate to get the legal rights to release some movies.

@NankerPhelge In a simple surface sense you are but in the big picture no. No offense but you aren't understanding how hard, expensive, and sometimes damn near impossible it can be to get the legalities straight.

@MethDozer At least as many people have been born since then, so that alone should counterbalance the deaths, especially after a long period of time. People rarely lose interest though. Once a Karen Black fan, always a Karen Black fan. No matter which actress is involved, the basics remain the same and there is nothing moot about it.

@NankerPhelge That's not true though. Tastes change so newer audiences may not replace the lost older ones in the same numbers.
Not all fans who were interested in owning a copy 25 years ago will be interested today. For numerous reasons. Trends don't work the way you think.

Isaid it's all moot because more often it's all the red tape that gets in the way.

@MethDozer I don't know where you get the crazy notion that "not all fans who were interested in owning a copy 25 years ago will be interested today". Fans of actors and actresses are very much like music fans, they become fanatical fans and go to great lengths to complete their collections. And like most other obsessive perfectionistic completists, they want their entire collection all in one format, preferably a format that is doubly practical in that it has top quality and takes up less storage space. How the dickens can you say that is not true, especially when it jolly well [i]is[/i] true of nearly all my friends?

@NankerPhelge Because as a hardcore movie fanatic. I know what I'm saying is correct.
Especially nowadays when physical media formats are kinda obsolete other than for the purpose of collecting covers.

@MethDozer If by "nowadays when physical media formats are kinda obsolete other than for the purpose of collecting covers" you mean what I suspect you mean, once again I have to say you are wrong. If you mean movies being available to watch online nowadays, first of all not every movie in the world is available online, and second, there is nothing to stop malicious site admin deleting movies from their sites, which would make it impossible to watch a specific movie online on a specific actress's birthday. That's all the more reason to collect them in physical formats such as DVD. The hardcore movie fanatics I've met (at the film fairs in Liverpool and Manchester) all fall into the category I described, i.e. collecting movies in physical format so that they can [i]own[/i] them and watch them whenever they want to. The number of people who collect them for the covers are most definitely in the minority. For every one of those there are hundreds who collect them because of the cast, I just know there are.

@NankerPhelge You're part of a very small minority of movie watcher. That's what you fail to realize.

Everything is on the internet to watch. If one knows how to find it. Piracy is great like that.

@MethDozer I thought piracy was illegal. Every DVD I buy has an anti-piracy warning on it just before the movie starts, and I end up shouting at the screen "fuck off with your piracy warning, I'm not going to pirate it and you know it" or something like that. Lol :)

I have looked before in search of certain movies and not found them online, so until I see for myself that literally [i]everything[/i] is on the Internet to watch I remain skeptical of that. How am I part of a very small minority when practically all of my movie-loving friends have the same basic approach?

@Firespirit I just checked that site now. I tried searching for one movie, "Ruckus", and this was the result:

"[b]Information
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Unfortunately, site search yielded no results. Try to change or shorten your request."

If it couldn't find a one-word title like that, what chance do I have of finding a movie on it with a longer title such as "Piranha Women In The Avocado Jungle Of Death"? So much for "Everything is on the Internet to watch".