Fine tuning of the universe

Just the pure math is mind boggling. So the main constants we know are gravity and If we increased the strength of gravity by just 1 part in 10^34 of the range of force strengths (the equivalent of moving less than one inch on the universe-long ruler), the universe couldn’t have life sustaining planets. If strong and weak nuclear force or electromagnetism were to even change slightly there would be no bonds and no matter. Cosmological constant (which controls the expansion speed of the universe). is 1 part in 10^120. And based on the fine tuning In The [i]Road to Reality[/i], physicist Roger Penrose estimates that the odds of the initial low entropy state of our universe occurring by chance alone are on the order of 1 in 10^10^123.
How incredible the universe is

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Carazaa · F

What a mighty God we have!

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Carazaa · F

@Axeroberts 😉That's right. (I'm just saying that's not what you wrote above 16 min ago)

Carazaa · F

@Axeroberts No it is not what you wrote. You wrote this I am quoting you, and this means that you believe it IS possible that the universe came without interference. Read your comment carefully.
[quote]i even find from a "logical" point of view that any of this could have happened without any interference.[/quote] You should have written "could not have happened"

Carazaa · F

@Axeroberts I am not arguing with you, just saying you forgot a NOT 😘

ElRengo · 70-79, M

"Fine Tunning" is a biased concept that ignores that no mater how improbable is an event, it´s "probability" is 1 by when it happens.
It also ignores than the oppossite of randomness is not "designed" / planned, that would be the fallacy of a false dilemma.
And moreover that "absolute" determinism haves the same ontological merit as "absolute" chance and both the same one as winged cows: there are no such things as those ones.

That said, yes, the Universe is a source of beauty,

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Axeroberts · 56-60, M

@ElRengo well there are many on both sides of the fence. lol

ElRengo · 70-79, M

@Axeroberts
And all of them have full right to believe what they do believe.

SomeMichGuy · M

@ElRengo

[quote]"Fine Tunning" is a biased concept that ignores that no mater how improbable is an event, it´s "probability" is 1 by when it happens.[/quote]

No.

It's based upon looking at what even slight differences in the fundamental physical constants would mean to "a Universe as we know it".

Yes, we DO have the values we have, but the point is that [b]fulfilling the anthropological principle actually is quite hard[/b], if you consider an [i]n[/i]-dimensional space where each of these constants can take on a range of values ([i]à la[/i] the [i]Mr. Tompkins[/i] stories).

Sure, we ARE here; but asking what range of variations of the "constants" still gives us...well..."us", with the Universe we see...it's a valid question and the results are sobering.

And it's "fine tu[u]n[/u]ing", like an instrument, not

[quote]"Fine Tu[u]nn[/u]ing"[/quote]

SteelHands · 61-69, M

I hypothesized that from here the universe looks the same in all directions. Which recently it's been shown that it does.

But not all of it was had become similarly, no matter where in the universe its observed when from.

A most recent, inescapable conclusion.

thewindupbirdchronicles · 46-50, M

I won't go into this again, some love chaos, some love order.. some fine tune themselves to attune there needs to be no question and unfold themselves into beauty. Where you look for answers, I'll only say no question was needed.

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