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Rational Men, An Irrational World


Honestly, this isn't unique to men, just far more common amongst them, I think because of the subtle cultural idea that "Men are Rational" (and women are not).

Regardless of who does it, its so entirely silly, I think people really overestimate what Rationalism is and can do. So often it does only just that, it *rations*, makes measurement units that are easy for structural utility.
It doesn't make these measurements *real*, doesn't even make what they're representative of *real*, it just makes them useful to work.

Same often goes for when I hear science bros go "Science says".
Science doesn't say anything; it isn't personified. Do you mean "Scientist(s) say"? Then which ones are you talking about, because plenty disagree with eachother. Have you ever been in a room with a bunch of paleontologists? They respect eachother (usually), but they certainly don't always agree.

Thats a good thing, ultimately, thats a notable part of the scientific process. And scientists do often agree on different premises more broadly, but when all of that is just used to say "Science says", it shows not only a lack of understanding in science, but a desire to make your opinion acceptable because of an external authority.

Really, even more than that though, it becomes not only silly, but genuinely dangerous when they start to not even understand their own emotional states as a result, or to devalue emotions, subjective values, intuition, sensory perception, and everything else "not rational". Those things ultimately aren't rationalizable, because not everything in the world is devisable in a rational sense. Part of the world is qualitative and must be understood as such, it's not rationale and logic the whole way down.
Hell, even Quantum Theory, Neuroscience, and other "rational fields" begin to figure out as much.

Anyways, this post is probably pretty hard for a lot to understand, I know, but its been on my mind a lot lately.
fakable · T
rationalism is an artificial concept of descartes

he spoke of the fact that an effect has a cause

he's right

every thought you have is rational, even if you don't see the reason for the thought

in a practical sense...
you do or don't do an action based on reason alone

it is in the will of your mind to determine some reasons for your action as not rational

it may be a subconscious process

but you are always in the field of the mind

that's the way the world works
soberSimplicity · 18-21, T
@fakable To describe sure. To cognitively understand, or linguistically state. But pure perception may better be able to.
fakable · T
@soberSimplicity
pure perception you already have
soberSimplicity · 18-21, T
@fakable Indeed.
SnailTeeth · 36-40
Lol.

No.

The problem is with people thinking they know the answer, and not realising they picked the worst of at least 10 different solutions to get to that answer.
soberSimplicity · 18-21, T
@SnailTeeth Im confused? Elaborate.
SnailTeeth · 36-40
@soberSimplicity You elaborate.

I was merely arguing with the meme, not your statements after.

 
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