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Russian Cosmism

Cosmism emerged in Russia before the October Revolution and developed through the 1920s and 1930s; like Marxism and the European avant-garde, two other movements that shared this intellectual moment, Russian Cosmism rejected the contemplative for the transformative, aiming to create not merely new art or philosophy but a new world. Cosmism went the furthest in its visions of transformation, calling for the end of death, the resuscitation of the dead, and free movement in cosmic space.

Cosmism was developed by the Russian philosopher Nikolai Fedorov in the late nineteenth century; he believed that humans had an ethical obligation not only to care for the sick but to cure death using science and technology; outer space was the territory of both immortal life and infinite resources. After the revolution, a new generation pursued Fedorov's vision. Cosmist ideas inspired visual artists, poets, filmmakers, theater directors, novelists (Tolstoy and Dostoevsky read Fedorov's writings), architects, and composers, and influenced Soviet politics and technology. In the 1930s, Stalin quashed Cosmism, jailing or executing many members of the movement.

Today, when the philosophical imagination has again become entangled with scientific and technological imagination, the works of the Russian Cosmists seem newly relevant.

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SteelHands · 61-69, M
Snake oil sales. Indigo children laws of attraction, third eye opening. Stalin was eventually forced to kill them by the score because they were using up what little money was being made under the communist system.

Communism was a total failure from the beginning. The only reason it even lasted a while was sheer economic inertia.

China is collapsing now. Every regular person there knows it. Only the upper level wealthy party people still want it.

Nobody else though.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@SteelHands I do not know what your first three phrases mean, but Stalin was not "forced" to kill anyone. He simply and callously regarded cold-blooded murder, directly or by wilful neglect as in his remote slave-labour prison camps, as a normal tool of government by monomania.

Communism at least in the USSR failed, eventually, but not because of Cosmism - a totally different thing.
Gloomy · F
@ArishMell He read my other post on what the USSR could and should have been and it made him mad I think.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Gloomy I see!
SteelHands · 61-69, M
@Gloomy you're projecting again. I neither embrace or reject things based on my emotional reaction.

I shouldn't need to keep reminding you about that.
SteelHands · 61-69, M
@ArishMell Right. Confiscation and sending people to freeze and starve to death afterward and brutality abuse stagnation imprisonment for not pretending to love the suffering imposed by that government was just done wrong.

Okay. Now I think I get it. You're nuts.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@SteelHands Insulting people won't help anyone, let alone you; but it does help to read what they write before you reply. Since when have I defended Stalin's regime (or similarly those of Hitler and Mao) as you accuse me of doing?

I said Stalin (and similar dictators) were not "forced" to be brutes. No, they weren't: they [i]chose [/i]to be brutes.
Gloomy · F
@SteelHands Your emotional reaction follows you rejecting something and not the other way round I know.
Being overly emotional you insulted someone talking about a topic that has no direct connection to my original post while strawmaning my position that is not entirely against the Soviet Union as supporting Gulags.
SteelHands · 61-69, M
@Gloomy *Yawn*

More of a deflection than a rebut.

I can't help impressionable jellyfish crave empty compliments so bad every unwelcome truth heard automatically becomes effrontery. Government scandalized educational backgrounds and use of hallucinogens by you parents are probably to blame for that.
Gloomy · F
@SteelHands I wasn't even attempting a rebut since you made no claims worthy of it.

Adhominem seems to be your method here although I have no idea what [quote]Government scandalized educational backgrounds[/quote] are. Maybe cause I am not a native speaker I have never heard that term.
Calling ArishMell nuts that I found to be effrontery.
SteelHands · 61-69, M
@Gloomy Thank you for your worthy comment and sharing your profoundly examined thoughts on comments.
SteelHands · 61-69, M
With regard to the phrase I used that you called a term. ( Term is another of the countless perversions of speech done by the usurpers of knowledge)

It's a very large body of evidence that easily shows government skulez are mere indoctrination and purpose selection centers.

You faulting me for being amused at the ordinary and nearly total misdelusioning of comprehension itself is, after all, a hilarious concept to me.

Srysly. Brandoniziation of the global leadership? There's nothing new to see here.
Gloomy · F
@SteelHands Yeah again no idea what you are rambling on about. Government schools as in public schools? Figured you would support a two class education system.
SteelHands · 61-69, M
@Gloomy Funny you should bring that up.

Nobody handed me a good god damn anything much less the library card I used to. Educate myself.

Anything else ninja brain?
Gloomy · F
@SteelHands Because you had it difficult you don't want to improve a system that would make it easier for others to access education, which is something fundamental and important? Very bitter of you.
Not my fault the US system puts so many barriers up. I'm glad not to live there.
SteelHands · 61-69, M
@Gloomy You're both mistaken and self deluded. Not knowing me nor my rare parentage, life story or me personally still you self certify erroneous fantasies you create.

It was my choice, not the government skule teethers. Not intellectual vanity. Not even about abiding my father's directive over my better educated* mom's suggestion it be simply a given. That I earn my library card and every book he purchased in my behalf. Rather than just take silent secret assists from my mom or lack the foundation of right of ownership over my intellect and hold appreciation of the value for the costs of same.

This is your error. You think that the mind is so easily built that if you toss the children into a container with a slew of materials, add a few teecher tainted incentives to the mix. Then top it off with a thin veil of ribboned dogskin and a ridiculously foursquared tassel on their heads you end up with someone confident of knowing something.

Your confidence. It is uppity. I'll grant you. But it'd be more useful if you actually knew how artificial it all was. Because then you'd still be capable. Not of learning something. Of knowing what you were cheated of.
Gloomy · F
@SteelHands Nah but basic education works that way and higher education happens within a dialouge between students and professors.
SteelHands · 61-69, M
@Gloomy Oh well. In that case sign meup for 75k a year in crappy primary school lessons that manage grade 8 or 9 reading snd math proficiency in 12 years and top me off with a 150k 2 year degree stacked with obsolete books made with 3-5yr old field study info. taught by the one that ate the most ass crust of their last tenured proffesor.

Yup. Now I'll be sharp as a crayon.
Gloomy · F
@SteelHands Like I said your system is fucked.
I'm not from the US and therefore don't have to pay insane amounts of money to get a crappy education.
Don't know why people don't stand up for reforms.
SteelHands · 61-69, M
@Gloomy I would tell you that you missed the point but you'd probably miss the point.
Carazaa · F
@Gloomy Crappy education? I think the US has the best public Universities in the world. I have gone to school in a few countries and when it comes to grammar school in the USA it is more interesting and fun and more student directed than other countries where it is mostly rote and stressful. Test scores don't mean anything since you can't compare oranges and apples since America is a melting pot with many students who don't know English and scores are sometimes low because of this. But I started to love learning in the USA. I had excellent teachers and went to university because of my love for learning.