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https://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/54203/20221117/scientists-confirmed-earth-s-stabilizing-responses-keeps-global-temperatures-check.htm

"According to a recent study, the planet has a "stabilizing feedback" mechanism that has been working for millions of years to maintain stable, habitable global temperatures."

Thank God.
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@checkoutanytime says [quote]we dont have a choice.[/quote]
Ah, but we DO have a choice. Humans have been accidentally modifying the climate for the past 100+ years. We can now modify it intentionally. A simple case of human climate modification and repair is the ozone hole.

The antarctic ozone hole is a case that demonstrates both humanity's ability to affect the atmosphere and humanity's ability to fix the damage we've done. The ozone hole began shrinking when we reduced CFC outputs by over 99%.

[quote]NASA began measuring Earth’s stratospheric ozone layer by satellite in 1979. By the time the Montreal Protocol went into effect in 1989, ozone concentrations (in Dobson units) had declined significantly over the Antarctic, enlarging the ozone hole. [/quote]

The American Chemical Society says:
[quote] [b]Chlorofluorocarbons and Ozone Depletion[/b]
A National Historic Chemical Landmark
. . .
“When we realized there was a very effective chain reaction, that changed the CFC investigation from an interesting scientific problem to one that had major environmental consequences,” Rowland told Chemical & Engineering News in an extensive interview in 2007. “You don’t often get many chills down your back when you look at scientific results,” he added, but that had been one of those moments.[/quote]
https://www.acs.org/content/acs/en/education/whatischemistry/landmarks/cfcs-ozone.html

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[quote]Research studies in the laboratory show that chlorine (Cl) reacts very rapidly with ozone. They also show that the reactive chemical chlorine monoxide (ClO) formed in that reaction can undergo further processes that regenerate the original chlorine, allowing the sequence to be repeated very many times (a chain reaction). Similar reactions also take place between bromine and ozone.

But do these ozone-destroying reactions occur in the "real world"? All the accumulated scientific experience demonstrates that the same chemical reactions do take place in nature. Many other reactions (including those of other chemical species) are often also taking place simultaneously in the stratosphere. This makes the connections among the changes difficult to untangle. Nevertheless, whenever chlorine (or bromine) and ozone are found together in the stratosphere, the ozone-destroying reactions are taking place.

Sometimes a small number of chemical reactions are so dominant in the natural circumstance that the connections are almost as clear as in laboratory experiments. Such a situation occurs in the Antarctic stratosphere during the springtime formation of the ozone hole. Independent measurements made by instruments from the ground and from balloons, aircraft, and satellites have provided a detailed understanding of the chemical reactions in the Antarctic stratosphere. Large areas reach temperatures so low (less than 80°C, or 112°F) that stratospheric clouds form, which is a rare occurrence, except during the polar winters. These polar stratospheric clouds allow chemical reactions that transform chlorine species from forms that do not cause ozone depletion into forms that do cause ozone depletion. Among the latter is chlorine monoxide, which initiates ozone destruction in the presence of sunlight. The amount of reactive chlorine in such regions is therefore much higher than that observed in the middle latitudes, which leads to much faster chemical ozone destruction. The chemical reactions occurring in the presence of these clouds are now well understood from studies under laboratory conditions that mimic those found naturally in the atmosphere.[/quote]
@ElwoodBlues by man made it looks like dams are the biggest evil to climate changes

@checkoutanytime Where does it say dams change global temperature and global CO2 levels?

That dam affects salmon fisheries, something of local economic value. Does the effect of dams go beyond local fish populations??
@ElwoodBlues how do CO2 levels have anything to do with climate change? They dont, its human greed that devastates the land.
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@ElwoodBlues [quote]how do CO2 levels have anything to do with climate change? They dont, its human greed that devastates the land.[/quote]

lol

I think you might be fighting a battle you can't win.
@checkoutanytime I've answered with more details at top level, but here's a quick answer.

The global warming / climate change we're seeing in the last 100 or so years is MUCH different from anything measured in the glacial & sea sediment records covering the last 700,000 years. CO2 is rising 100x faster, and temps 10x faster.

"How is Today’s Warming Different from the Past?" https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/features/GlobalWarming/page3.php "As the Earth moved out of ice ages over the past million years, the global temperature rose a total of 4 to 7 degrees Celsius over about 5,000 years. In the past century alone, the temperature has climbed 0.7 degrees Celsius, roughly ten times faster than the average rate of ice-age-recovery warming."

How is today's CO2 increase different? https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide "The annual rate of increase in atmospheric carbon dioxide over the past 60 years is about 100 times faster than previous natural increases, such as those that occurred at the end of the last ice age 11,000-17,000 years ago."

Fact is, anthropogenic global warming is accepted by a YUGE segment of the scientific community. Would you accept the consensus opinion of the American Physical Society AND the American Chemical Society? How about the American Association for the Advancement of Science, and at least 15 other national organizations of publishing scientists? See https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
@SW-User You might be right that I'll never change checkout's mind. He and I are old frenemies from back in the Yahoo Answers days.

But I have curated a few answers to the standard global warming deniel claims that are easy to cut & paste, and colorful to boot!! They make it tougher to maintain the usual simplistic denials.
@ElwoodBlues you are correct Sir. Ill never buy into the global warming propaganda. The devastation comes from overly manipulating the land, and deysroying the natural ecosystems/natural terrian too much.
@checkoutanytime Let us know when you have data to support those explanations! Right now the data says atmospheric levels of CO2 are the primary factor. H2O is the primary greeenhouse gas, but high CO2 levels drive higher H2O levels.

https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide
@ElwoodBlues h²o is a coolant
@ElwoodBlues ive got to go to work now and burn 10's of gallons of diesel fuel. Have a nice day buddy.
@checkoutanytime Thanks, buddy! And I sincerely hope your kids and my kids have a nice future!!

P.S.: [quote]h²o is a coolant[/quote] Liquid water may be, but water vapor is a major greenhouse gas.

[quote]Water vapor is Earth’s most abundant greenhouse gas. It’s responsible for about half of Earth’s greenhouse effect — the process that occurs when gases in Earth’s atmosphere trap the Sun’s heat.[/quote]
https://climate.nasa.gov/ask-nasa-climate/3143/steamy-relationships-how-atmospheric-water-vapor-amplifies-earths-greenhouse-effect/
@ElwoodBlues ive been thinking it over and it occured to me how in the forest where i live the climate is self sufficient and cooler than that of the quarries where water has not naturally eruted and chanilized its way to a mass body of water, which also can be said of engineered cities where the water is chanelized but flooding regularly occurs. Just an add on to my original stance above.
@checkoutanytime It's well known in climate science that cities have become "heat islands" with higher temps than surrounding green areas. Cities also tend to have the longest series of daily high & low temperature measurements. This heat island effect would distort estimates of temp rise.

At some point a few decades ago climate scientists figured out how to correct for the heat island effect. They also developed ways of measuring temperature from air bubbles trapped in glaciers, tree rings, and other sources. So we now have many remote sources of temp measurements going back many thousands of years. It's all in the long postings I posted that you didn't read.

Go back and actually look at my answer to @checkoutanytime asks
[quote]how do CO2 levels have anything to do with climate change? [/quote]
@ElwoodBlues thats more like radiation then co2 though. All that pavment, concrete, and underground water, of course, thats the point. Anywhere thats developed is going to be susceptible to the climate change talks, the ground can not absorb the water, its a baking stone.
@checkoutanytime Like I say, the heat island effect is well known and accounted for in global warming measurements.
@ElwoodBlues yes without studying its abundantly clear, my friend.