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Does God exist-proof from science, a debate between a Doctor and Matt Dillahunty

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yes there must be a God because things don't come from nothing
No I don't understand this
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Do you understand that things don't come from nothing? 🙂
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rhouse · 56-60, M
God only exists if people believe he/she/it exists.
butterflybaby75 · 46-50, F
@rhouse Exactly - just like the 'value' of a unit of currency. If tomorrow people here in Australia decided a dollar was no longer worth a dollar, then the economy collapses. God is a man-made concept to explain things which science has not yet explained.
rhouse · 56-60, M
Yes. The key part of your comment is "has not yet explained." Science will explain most things some day if we keep the earth alive that long. Thanks. @butterflybaby75
butterflybaby75 · 46-50, F
@rhouse Yes religion and government have this trait in common - neither likes things they cannot control. Religion invents 'God' and uses things like 'Bible' as the framework. Government creates laws. Religious people treat the Bible (or their religion's own version of it) as 'laws'.
Carazaa · F
@rhouse No what you dish out will come back to you. God will treat you the way you treat people! You kill them, God will kill you!
rhouse · 56-60, M
But your bible tells me that they should die if they don't follow the sabbath. Why would he kill me for killing someone who does that? @Carazaa
butterflybaby75 · 46-50, F
@Carazaa And you have thereby proven one of the central tenets of modern christian religion wrong - that God loves everyone equally. If god kills, that makes God the Devil (as the other man-made antithesis of 'God), and the Devil is God. One and the same - not seperate 'good' and 'bad'. Oopsie.
Carazaa · F
@rhouse Jesus covers our sins if we follow him! How can you be happy when you disobey God and hurt people?
rhouse · 56-60, M
I can be happy if I don't follow god and don't hurt people. That is a fallacy in your argument. You are stating that you must hurt others if you don't follow god. The first three commandments of the decalogue are about honoring an egomaniacal leader. If I break those three, who am I hurting. @Carazaa
Carazaa · F
@rhouse You are hurting yourself if you do not follow Jesus. There is one way to the Father and that is through me Jesus says!
rhouse · 56-60, M
Or maybe he didn't say that. As far as we know Jesus never wrote a word of the bible.@Carazaa
Carazaa · F
@butterflybaby75 God controls Satan. He uses Satan to deceive people who do not want the truth.
Carazaa · F
@butterflybaby75 If you are not born again God doesn't hear your prayers. We MUST be born again, according to Jesus.
rhouse · 56-60, M
What an egomaniacal leader you follow. He uses others to trick his believers into doing bad so he can punish them. Is he some kind of sadist? I think we all know the answer to that. @Carazaa
rhouse · 56-60, M
Wow. He will ignore your plea for life because you didn't do exactly what he told you to do? Wow. @Carazaa
butterflybaby75 · 46-50, F
@Carazaa BS. Your statement of god killing proves that God and the anti-God are one and the same thing which completely destroys a basic tenet of christianity.
Carazaa · F
@butterflybaby75 God gives and God takes. Blessed be the name of The LORD!
rhouse · 56-60, M
BTW - you still didn't answer me when I asked whether you truly believe that my 3 month old neice died because she dishonored her parents. She was never "born again". Hell, she was barely born the first time. @Carazaa
Carazaa · F
@rhouse I have never said why babies die. God probably has a place in heaven for that baby! And you'll see him one day if you go to heaven.
rhouse · 56-60, M
I believe your bible says "The wages of sin is death." I know you didn't say it because you don't have an answer for why your god would kill a 3-month old...or an 80-year old for that matter. @Carazaa
Carazaa · F
@rhouse "The wages of sin is death" true. So it is so amazing that Jesus paid our ticket! Thank you Lord. He did not have to. He did that because HE loves us! He goes to prepare a mansion for us each he said. And he is coming very soon. I believe it is this year or by 2023.
rhouse · 56-60, M
You really are whacky. My neice died even though he paid for our sins. That is how much he loves us? Now he is coming back in the next 2 years. If he doesn't do you have an alternative date that you have picked out? That seems to be the modus operandi for cults that predict the end days. Many examples if you care to look them up. @Carazaa
Carazaa · F
@rhouse Have a nice evening!🙂
rhouse · 56-60, M
Oh...It was just getting fun. I wish you a long and happy life until you end up rotting in the ground like the rest of us.

I totally understand Pascal's wager. He says you are right to do what you do and I am wrong but I am confident in my sure bet.

Good night.

@Carazaa
Carazaa · F
@rhouse Good night!🙏
Carazaa · F
@rhouse
He will ignore your plea for life because you didn't do exactly what he told you to do? Wow. @Carazaa

I don't think many understand what happened when God banned us from the garden of Eden. God walked with us in the garden, but when they listened to Satan we were banned forever.

All of humanity is banned from God for eternity. We are doomed. There is one way
that we can communicate with him, if we get down on our knees and repent, turn from ALL our sins, and follow Jesus where-ever he wants us to go. We put him first, before family, house, money, and everything. Then God might save us and the Holy Spirit comes into our heart. Then we are part of the family of God and then he will listen to your prayers, and answer them.