With all the hype about the Epstein files, I can't help but think that there may have been a symbiotic relationship between

At least some of these girls, those who are over 18, and Epstein, and all this self-righteousness and this indignation on behalf of the people who are grandstanding is somewhat sickening to me. Don't you think some of these girls felt that it was a good deal for them for what they were getting out of the deal?

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GuiltyBiStander · 31-35, F

No. I don't think that "grandstanding" is what's going on with the investigation, or the reaction to the harm done by Epstein and his associates.

But I wonder what you're really asking in this post, and why ?

No one who's been closely following developments in this case, or who understands what's involved, thinks it's about women of legal age who were involved in consenting relationships for financial reward.

The public outrage has come with evidence showing that hundreds of minor girls were groomed and manipulated into abusive sexual relationships, to entertain wealthy and powerful adults who used their influence to deliberately hide their actions and avoid legal consequences.

If you honestly aren't sure about that, spend 20 minutes online doing your own research and answer your own question.

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Roundandroundwego · 61-69

@GuiltyBiStander I think the Epstein scandal overlaps with Monica Lewinsky and Anita Hill. Inequality is the trap.
I know Americans will see this when you decide to stop enjoying the girls!!!
You're never going there.

GuiltyBiStander · 31-35, F

@Roundandroundwego

You've got a lot of theories, but "enjoying the girls" ... ?

Roundandroundwego · 61-69

@GuiltyBiStander why would you become a doctor or a lawyer if you couldn't have great relationships with subordinates at work? Inequality is serving its purpose and entitlements that might spoil it can't happen!

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@GuiltyBiStander

The public outrage has come with evidence showing that hundreds of minor girls were groomed and manipulated into abusive sexual relationships, to entertain wealthy and powerful adults who used their influence to deliberately hide their actions and avoid legal consequences.

The minors were pimped out by their parents, so why aren't the parents being charged with crimes?

GuiltyBiStander · 31-35, F

@Diotrephes

And you know this, because ... ??

If you've got a reliable source that shows parents were knowing accomplices in every aspect of Epstein's traffiking, please share it.

What findings from investigators who talked to actual victims and gathered direct evidence shows is something else. From the beginning, they were struck by how methodical Epstein was in choosing and manipulating the girls he wanted, and how skilled he was in isolating his victims from their families :

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@GuiltyBiStander So, he got all of those teens visas to the US. Wasn't that nice of him?

GuiltyBiStander · 31-35, F

@Diotrephes

What's your point, exactly ?