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NewBecky · 51-55, F
Atheism is a belief system which requires faith in the ability of dna to be organized without a designer or creator. It requires much faith, and it is a faith which does proselytize.
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3 simple observations:
1. Even the dna of a "simple" amoeba is very complex
2. Goo assembling dna is impossible, but atheism has faith it happened. But then it would also have to spring into life! When you die, your body will yet have very complex dna, but what good is it if you are dead?
3. Next, the atheistic faith holds that this dna also happened to give the ability to replicate.
When people observed a rock on mars which had right angles on it, they already began to suspect intelligent design. Yet, dna is so much more complex than a rock with right angles. It is far easier to expect a designer/creator than it is to have faith that it formed by chance.
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3 simple observations:
1. Even the dna of a "simple" amoeba is very complex
2. Goo assembling dna is impossible, but atheism has faith it happened. But then it would also have to spring into life! When you die, your body will yet have very complex dna, but what good is it if you are dead?
3. Next, the atheistic faith holds that this dna also happened to give the ability to replicate.
When people observed a rock on mars which had right angles on it, they already began to suspect intelligent design. Yet, dna is so much more complex than a rock with right angles. It is far easier to expect a designer/creator than it is to have faith that it formed by chance.
berangere · 80-89, F
The creator is itself nature,it has the innate knowledge to create itself and evolve,we could look upon it as "God the all knowing",to give it a form we can come to term with,the knowledge of nature is unlimited if we allow it free expression and do not put our own limitations in its way as most religions have done for centuries,limiting it only to their own understanding and prejudices.
NewBecky · 51-55, F
@berangere: "Nature" cannot produce life where there is not life. It cannot produce dna from anything which is devoid of dna,
berangere · 80-89, F
@sailnude: How did life start? It started with a single cell in the ocean that covered most of the earth millions of years ago,that cell was always there waiting for the right conditions to start its development and to evolve to what life is now on earth in all its amazing variety.
NewBecky · 51-55, F
A cell is too complex to simply happen. DNA in even a so-called simple cell is incredibly complex. Nature cannot produce dna.
NewBecky · 51-55, F
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berangere · 80-89, F
@sailnude: But nature has produced DNA,this is why we are here.Nature IS the supreme intelligence we humans call God!
NewBecky · 51-55, F
No, I'm sorry but nature cannot make dna. If the ocean were sterile... no living organisms in it... nature could not produce the dna. Furthermore, nature could not create life in that sterile environment. Life requires an intelligent designer/creator and we could certainly call the Creator God.
berangere · 80-89, F
The Ocean was not sterile millions of years ago,it held potential life that was just waiting to be awaken by the right conditions,the ultimate intelligence we call God to give it form and contain it is the force of what we also call nature.It is God! And it permeates all creation and we are all part of it.I am not an atheist I believe in a superior power and that power has created us all, it can be called God or nature itself.And that same force permeate the universe as well.
NewBecky · 51-55, F
Sterile or absent from life. You are describing something which does not exist and a nature which cannot be observed. This is what makes atheism a faith. I simply do not have enough faith to be an atheist. It is much easier to believe that nature was created by an intelligent being.
berangere · 80-89, F
@sailnude: The intelligent being is nature itself,because God and his creations are not separate,it is the same force.Like we are not separate from God as religions have made many of their followers believe.And the power of God is in us all,this is how I see spirituality as being opposite to religion.
NewBecky · 51-55, F
You can call nature intelligent if you like, but what we observe in nature does not support the notion that it formed dna. We observe a nature in which dna does not form unless it is from a parent. In fact, we observe the impossibility of dna and life to occur in this nature without a parent. So, nature and God are separate.
bijouxbroussard · F
I totally disagree with that premise. Theists want to make atheism a "belief system" and it [i]isn't[/i] one. You don't have to know anything about or have any scientific theories to not accept that some sky being is running things. The only thing atheists have in common is a disbelief in a deity or deities---not even necessarily the same ones.
NewBecky · 51-55, F
@bijouxbroussard: Then they either have not considered the impossibility of origin or they refuse to accept the impossibility. But, we cannot be here without a designer/creator. To believe otherwise would require great faith.
bijouxbroussard · F
berangere · 80-89, F
@sailnude: Where did the parent originate from,does he also have parents?
NewBecky · 51-55, F
I do not mind someone approaching origin from the point of reference that they do not believe in God. As they consider, How did we get here? they eventually must answer the question "How did dna form without a parent?" And "How did life spring into the creature before it could rot"? If you approach it from an atheist point of view, that's fine... but eventually you must see a designer/creator's handiwork because dna is so complex even in the simplest organisms.
bijouxbroussard · F
NewBecky · 51-55, F
@berangere: The first organism could not have a parent. That is precisely the point, beringer. So, without an intelligent designer/creator... the original organism could not exist. But, it is far easier to assume a designer made something so vastly complex than it is to believe that it simply happened by nature. Because, the nature we observe cannot do it.
NewBecky · 51-55, F
@bijouxbroussard: I am only stating facts. The facts make it impossible for me to be atheist. I do not have enough faith.
berangere · 80-89, F
GoldenWorm · 51-55, M