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I Think Indoctrinating Children With Religion Is Child Abuse

Of course if you believe that indoctrinating children with religion is child abuse then you have to go on to say that indoctrinating them with atheism is also child-abuse. In fact you have to go on to say that indoctrinating them in any way and with any sort of value is child abuse, so let's close down the schools and stop all this indoctrination. Don't indoctrinate your children into road safety - let them find out for themselves what it's like to go under a lorry. I know people who take their child up a football match and indoctrinate them into supporting that team. How terrible that such child-abuse goes on! And for goodness sake don't let your children read books or they might get indoctrinated. And of course the greatest indoctrinater of all is the media. Do no Facebook, Television or Internet, have we got that clear?
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SW-User
All Scripture is breathed out by God
and profitable for teaching,
for reproof, for correction,
and for training in righteousness,
that the man of God may be competent, equipped for every good work.
For whatever was written in former days
was written for our instruction,
that through endurance and through the encouragement
of the Scriptures we might have hope.
examine/become acquainted... for it will suit you well through your life

verses taken from the book
suzie1960 · 61-69, F
@SW-User What absolute rubbish! There is no evidence that this "god" even exists.
Speedyman · 70-79, M
There is absolutely no evidence for atheism either@suzie1960
SW-User
To each their own
suzie1960 · 61-69, F
@Speedyman Nor is there is any evidence for the non-existence of Santa Claus either. That must mean He is real.
Speedyman · 70-79, M
Santa Claus appears to be a favourite with you. 😄@suzie1960
SW-User
@Speedyman so a valid argument is a joke now because you don't have a refutation of a perfectly valid argument?
greenmountaingal · 70-79, F
@suzie1960 St. Nicholas actually did live a long time ago in Poland. The myth has a basis in reality.
Phire1 · 51-55, F
@Speedyman There is evidence of Atheism just as much as there is evidence of Christianity
Speedyman · 70-79, M
Atheism believes something came from nothing. There is no rational evidence for that unless you believe in magic or fairy stories@Phire1
Speedyman · 70-79, M
Your arguments are a joke @SW-User
suzie1960 · 61-69, F
@Speedyman That what christianity teaches, that "god" just magically appeared out of nowhere. As fairy stories go, it's not one of the best.
suzie1960 · 61-69, F
@greenmountaingal The story of Santa is consistent with the activities of Odin at the Winter Solstice. It's likely the church just attributed it to or deliberately confused it with St Nicholas. Nearly all "christian" festivals were taken from Paganism.
Speedyman · 70-79, M
You are being completely daft. The story of St Nic has nothing to do with the New Testament! 😄@suzie1960
suzie1960 · 61-69, F
@Speedyman Strawman. Try reading [b]and understanding[/b] what others write before making ignorant comments about it.

I know St Nicholas isn't mentioned the the NT, nor the OT for that matter. I never said he was, I said the church based stories about him on the Norse god Odin.
Speedyman · 70-79, M
Reading igmorance isn't really my thing. As I said Christian festival celebrated in the west have nothing to do with the new Testament which happened in the east . @suzie1960
SW-User
@Speedyman Reading ignorance isn't yoir thing? Hello, you're holding the Bible as if it's the truth about the Universe. your book of choice is the right one and everything else ia wrong. yes that's a valid point.
Speedyman · 70-79, M
That statement just proves you're in tire ignorance and that your arguments are completely worthless. You are absolutely clueless. You have no idea what you're talking about and haven't done all the way through these threads. Why don't you clear off and stop being a troll@SW-User
SW-User
@Speedyman my statement 'proves' my ignorance only as much as that the Bible proves there's a benevolent God. Truth only to a Bible believer. Again, just claiming that someone is ignorant is not an argument. Making such claims without supporting argument is likely a result of indoctrination.
suzie1960 · 61-69, F
@Speedyman As usual you have nothing of value to say so you're reduced to throwing childish insults around. That really is the limit of your debating skills.
Speedyman · 70-79, M
You have absolutely nothing to say yourself apart from these negative statements which you refused to substantiate. The reason is you know nothing@suzie1960
suzie1960 · 61-69, F
@Speedyman Your childish insults are there for all to see. A negative statement does not need substantiation by definition.
Speedyman · 70-79, M
Come on stop repeating yourself and say something worthwhile you are obviously clueless. You have nothing to say and nothing to add to sensible debate. Now as I say for goodness sake stop your trolling activities and pass on@suzie1960
suzie1960 · 61-69, F
@Speedyman How about you ceasing the childish insults and start addressing some of the many points made?
Speedyman · 70-79, M
It us up to you to prove some of your points. You have done nothing to substantiate any of the points you have made in a whole long series of posts. I think you're just a fraud and don't know anything about what you're talking about@suzie1960
suzie1960 · 61-69, F
@Speedyman No, you are the proponent so it is for you to substantiate your claims. Thus far, despite being asked many times by many different people, you have provided nothing for anyone to refute. If you ever do, we're ready to attempt to refute it.

Do you believe in the Invisible Pink Unicorn? If not, please provide evidence to prove it isn't real.