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I Hate Religion


Religion [b]literally[/b] teaches not to question anything and not to think for yourself...
Do people even realize how messed up that is?
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Miram · 31-35, F
The verse is incomplete but it can be interpreted in the same sense based on the context of revelation you choose. This is the full verse:

يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ لَا تَسۡ‍َٔلُواْ عَنۡ أَشۡيَآءَ إِن تُبۡدَ لَكُمۡ تَسُؤۡكُمۡ وَإِن تَسۡ‍َٔلُواْ عَنۡهَا حِينَ يُنَزَّلُ ٱلۡقُرۡءَانُ تُبۡدَ لَكُمۡ عَفَا ٱللَّهُ عَنۡهَاۗ وَٱللَّهُ غَفُورٌ حَلِيمٞ

[i]O you who have believed, do not ask about things which, if they are shown to you, will distress you. But if you ask about them while the Qur'an is being revealed, they will be shown to you. Allah has pardoned that which is past; and Allah is Forgiving and Forbearing.[/i]

I am familiar with two contexts, in one someone asked Mohamed about the identity of his father and Mohammed revealed his mother had premarital sex.

The other was linked to the verse after that,

قَدۡ سَأَلَهَا قَوۡمٞ مِّن قَبۡلِكُمۡ ثُمَّ أَصۡبَحُواْ بِهَا كَٰفِرِينَ

[i] A people asked such [questions] before you; then they became thereby disbelievers.[/i]

Which is related to disbelievers leaving the religion after not receiving satisfying answers.

Interpretations based on the second context make more sense because they are consistent with the meanings of the verses that follow.
@Miram See this is what I'm saying. Picking out one verse loses context
Miram · 31-35, F
@Qwerty14 I am afraid I am showing the opposite of that. The meaning is closer to his claim when you take account of the other verses.
Miram · 31-35, F
@Qwerty14 Don't get me wrong, quoting without familiarity of the context can be misguiding. Just not in this case.
@Miram So you feel these verses should be interpreted as "don't ask questions"?
Miram · 31-35, F
@Qwerty14 I don't [i][b]feel[/b][/i] these verses should be interpreted as don't ask questions. I [b][i]know [/i][/b]they are interpreted that way by many already.
@Miram I will take your word for it. I don't know a lot about Islam
Miram · 31-35, F
@Qwerty14 The Book was written for specific times, specific conditions, not for now. It was a good piece and offered many explanations then. Ages passed, many conflicting and clashing historical accounts, scholarly works, many scandals related to authenticity... Lousy translations. Yet there are so many people that want it to be applied on all times, all cultures, all places. It just doesn't work that way.

Islam needs to keep up with the rest of the world. Few things corrected, good things of course preserved. That's what I really feel. Otherwise the minority who have the ability to look at it critically will always have little to no choice in staying as a member of the community. We are outcasts.

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@Miram I'm aware of this aspect of Islam. How it came to be etc. I just haven't read the Qur'an to give my opinions on bible verses ya know.
Miram · 31-35, F
@Qwerty14 If you do, learn Arabic first. I know it's difficult but the translations are misleading.🙆
@Miram Haha same goes for the bible. If you wanna read that learn Greek or Hebrew
Miram · 31-35, F
@Qwerty14 I already know Hebrew and Aramaic. I am just too lazy to finish the bible 😜