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Vatican II according to many even today

Vatican II, or the Second Vatican Council, was the landmark global meeting of Catholic bishops held from 1962 to 1965 to modernize the Catholic Church and connect it with the modern world. Pope John XXIII convened the gathering—often referred to by the Italian term aggiornamento, or "bringing up to date"—to renew the faith and adapt Church practices without changing core dogmas. Most moderate believers still agree that the council focused primarily on pastoral updates, internal renewal, and bridging gaps with the contemporary world.

Key Changes and Goals were:

- Liturgy Reform: it made that Mass could to be spoken in local regional languages (vernacular) instead of just Latin, encouraging active participation;

- Ecumenism: it encouraged broad unity and dialogue with other Christian denominations and non-Christian faiths;

- Role of the Laity: it emphasized that all church members—not just priests and nuns—share a universal call to holiness and active ministry;

- Religious Liberty: it declared that people have a fundamental human right to religious freedom without coercion.

The council produced 16 official documents, including four major constitutions:

Sacrosanctum Concilium: On the sacred liturgy.

Lumen Gentium: On the nature of the Church.

Dei Verbum: On divine revelation and scripture.

Gaudium et Spes: On the Church in the modern world.

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JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
Strangely I have a niece that wants to go back to pre second vatican concil and attends old format latin masses. Her views are much more dogmatic and pre concil as well. This movement is growing.
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@val70 Yes they are extreme. My brother in law works for a pro-life group and abortion is the whole family's obsession. They love Trump because he overturned Roe vs. Wade. There is a growing divide in my family that kind of mimics the church. My brother and I are no longer believers.
val70 · 56-60
@JimboSaturn That's a shame. I choose to become Anglican after a bishop that almost was at my confirmation was accused of pedofilia and said in an interview that he found the act to be reasonable for the time.
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@val70 I don't blame you!
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
There was some good and some bad came from it. Funny story. A priest named Quinn was leading a church in Ontario. Vatican 2 happened and he had to conduct the mass in English instead of Latin. At the end of the service several laymen approached him and suggested he go to rehab. He had been drinking for years but no one realized it because he was speaking Latin. Once he began speaking in English it was obvious to all that he was drunk. He said it saved his life as he went on to run a rehab in Detroit. Manfred Mann made the priest famous
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Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@hippyjoe1955

In Ontario a priest, name of Quinn,
Sang his masses with vigor, 'gainst sin,
But in Latin, 'tis true,
So that NOBODY knew
Father Quinn was just CHOCK full of gin.
WolfGirlwh0r3 · 36-40, T
Vatican 2 Christlectric Boogaloo
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
Thanks for this interesting summary. I am not in the Roman Catholic tradition, but it is good to be informed of other people's disagreements in an easy-to-understand way.
val70 · 56-60
@FreddieUK There's tremendous pressure on the papacy now to go against the principles once agreed upon because they would protect the Church in modern times. I'm not Roman Catholic, only catholic Anglican.

 
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