@Jane90 [@MrSmartiePants]
That’s not accurate. Baptist churches are Christian churches. We believe the Bible, we preach Jesus died and rose again, and we gather to worship God and study Scripture.
Freemasonry is a separate organization with its own beliefs and rituals. Most Baptists actually teach that Christians should NOT join secret societies because our loyalty is to Christ alone. Colossians 2:8 says "See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit."
If a church is teaching the Bible and pointing people to Jesus, that’s a church. Not a lodge.
That’s not accurate. Baptist churches are Christian churches. We believe the Bible, we preach Jesus died and rose again, and we gather to worship God and study Scripture.
Freemasonry is a separate organization with its own beliefs and rituals. Most Baptists actually teach that Christians should NOT join secret societies because our loyalty is to Christ alone. Colossians 2:8 says "See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit."
If a church is teaching the Bible and pointing people to Jesus, that’s a church. Not a lodge.
FreestyleArt · 36-40, M
@LadyGrace plus Freemasons don't believe in Jesus. They believe in Aliens as creators instead.
What's even more crazier is when they follow the Yoda doctrine...like in Star Wars. A demon they considered a wise spirit. That's a demon.
What's even more crazier is when they follow the Yoda doctrine...like in Star Wars. A demon they considered a wise spirit. That's a demon.
@FreestyleArt Brother, I love you and I appreciate you looking out for us 🙏
I’ve checked on this and Baptist churches are Christian churches. We preach Jesus and the Bible. Freemasonry is a separate group with different beliefs, and most of us are taught to keep our faith in Christ alone.
There’s a lot of stuff online that isn’t true, so I try to be careful what I share. I’m thankful you care about truth. John 8:32 — "you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free." Love you brother.
I’ve checked on this and Baptist churches are Christian churches. We preach Jesus and the Bible. Freemasonry is a separate group with different beliefs, and most of us are taught to keep our faith in Christ alone.
There’s a lot of stuff online that isn’t true, so I try to be careful what I share. I’m thankful you care about truth. John 8:32 — "you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free." Love you brother.
GeistInTheMachine · 31-35, M
I'd actually much rather join a meeting of Masons than Baptists, that's for sure.
4meAndyou · F
Google AI says that is incorrect!
"Someone might claim that all Baptist churches are Freemasons due to historical overlap in membership, independent church governance, and outsider skepticism toward secret oaths, though the premise is false because many Baptist bodies explicitly reject Freemasonry.
Historical and Demographic OverlapPast Leadership: Numerous prominent historical Baptist leaders and pastors were active members of Masonic lodges.
High Membership Ratios: Past surveys within major groups like the Southern Baptist Convention indicated that a notable percentage of local pastors and deacons historically held or hold dual membership in Masonic organizations.
Rural Community Ties: In many small towns, the local Masonic lodge and the local Baptist church shared the same prominent community leaders, blending social circles.
Misunderstandings of Church AutonomyIndependent Governance: Baptist churches operate on a model of local church autonomy, meaning there is no central hierarchy or governing bishop that dictates universal rules for every congregation.
Varying Local Standards: Because one Baptist church or pastor might permit members to be Masons, critics mistakenly generalize that individual practice across the entire global or national denomination.
Theological Friction and Conspiracy TheoriesAnti-Christian Accusations: Denominational study committees have scrutinized Masonic teachings, with bodies like the North American Mission Board noting that `“many tenets and teachings of Freemasonry are not compatible with Christianity.”, as noted by North American Mission Board.*
Secret Society Concerns: Because Masonic rituals involve private oaths and symbolism, apocalyptic or hyper-skeptical conspiracy theorists often label any overlapping traditional institution as secretly controlled by or merged with Masonry."
"Someone might claim that all Baptist churches are Freemasons due to historical overlap in membership, independent church governance, and outsider skepticism toward secret oaths, though the premise is false because many Baptist bodies explicitly reject Freemasonry.
Historical and Demographic OverlapPast Leadership: Numerous prominent historical Baptist leaders and pastors were active members of Masonic lodges.
High Membership Ratios: Past surveys within major groups like the Southern Baptist Convention indicated that a notable percentage of local pastors and deacons historically held or hold dual membership in Masonic organizations.
Rural Community Ties: In many small towns, the local Masonic lodge and the local Baptist church shared the same prominent community leaders, blending social circles.
Misunderstandings of Church AutonomyIndependent Governance: Baptist churches operate on a model of local church autonomy, meaning there is no central hierarchy or governing bishop that dictates universal rules for every congregation.
Varying Local Standards: Because one Baptist church or pastor might permit members to be Masons, critics mistakenly generalize that individual practice across the entire global or national denomination.
Theological Friction and Conspiracy TheoriesAnti-Christian Accusations: Denominational study committees have scrutinized Masonic teachings, with bodies like the North American Mission Board noting that `“many tenets and teachings of Freemasonry are not compatible with Christianity.”, as noted by North American Mission Board.*
Secret Society Concerns: Because Masonic rituals involve private oaths and symbolism, apocalyptic or hyper-skeptical conspiracy theorists often label any overlapping traditional institution as secretly controlled by or merged with Masonry."
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Please get your information straight.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
Are they? In all countries that have Baptist congregations?
I very much doubt it.
If they were, I think you'd have to be invited to join.
I very much doubt it.
If they were, I think you'd have to be invited to join.
MrSmartyPants · 46-50, M
What an eye opener!! ;) Even seeing there's a sliver of fact to this astounds me, thanks!!
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
No, because they are not. In UK these days you would find it difficult to join (not attend) a Baptist fellowship. Obviously I can't speak for every group that sticks the term "Baptist" in their title.
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@LadyGrace In the UK the Baptist Union is not a conventional denomination. There is no central 'authority' over the independent fellowships that choose to affiliate. Many British Baptist Churches are not connected to the BU, although all the Associations are. There are no central 'creeds' only broad agreements which are required to belong to the BU. The term 'Baptist' is not legally defined.
My Baptist fellowship belongs to the BU. It is open to all for worship and attendance at everything except the governing Church Meeting, which open only to members. Freemasons (or members of other similar 'secret' fraternities) who make an oath to another cannot proclaim 'Jesus is Lord' if they also hold that another entity takes priority. This is a local position and not laid down by the BU, but would (I suspect - but don't know) be common in most Baptist fellowships.
My Baptist fellowship belongs to the BU. It is open to all for worship and attendance at everything except the governing Church Meeting, which open only to members. Freemasons (or members of other similar 'secret' fraternities) who make an oath to another cannot proclaim 'Jesus is Lord' if they also hold that another entity takes priority. This is a local position and not laid down by the BU, but would (I suspect - but don't know) be common in most Baptist fellowships.
@FreddieUK @FreddieUK Thank you. I really appreciate you explaining how it works with the Baptist Union in the UK. I agree, as that's the way our church works, too.
You’re right — Jesus has to come first, and no other oath or group can take priority over Him. That’s exactly what I believe too.
And yes, every church needs rules and boundaries to protect the flock. That’s shepherding, not control. Acts 20:28
We’re on the same page.
You’re right — Jesus has to come first, and no other oath or group can take priority over Him. That’s exactly what I believe too.
And yes, every church needs rules and boundaries to protect the flock. That’s shepherding, not control. Acts 20:28
We’re on the same page.
LauriesDarkDesires · 31-35, F
How/why is that? ...or are you just trolling Baptists?
@LauriesDarkDesires i mean you did ask so i answered. Whatever hole your in don't hurt me none
LauriesDarkDesires · 31-35, F
@Mildud
Your answer was very appropriate, thank you
Your answer was very appropriate, thank you
@LauriesDarkDesires yuck
Adstar · 56-60, M
I know that some churches have links with the Masonic lodge, But it really is a case by case situation.. Some pastors are also members of the Masons.. It really is an evil thing and such churches should be avoided like the plague..










