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“About 200 children, women, elderly and sick people were taking shelter at the church when Israeli warplanes targeted the building with two raids.”
You can denounce Hamas and also denounce this. Senseless violence is wrong, irregardless the perpetrator.
Wishing you well, my beautiful friend.
You can denounce Hamas and also denounce this. Senseless violence is wrong, irregardless the perpetrator.
Wishing you well, my beautiful friend.
Moon3624 · 22-25, F
@JustGoneNow
Dark heaven,
You are a very dear person to me
And deep down I know you are a kind person.
You are also of Irish origin
And Ireland , the Irish and their pms are some of the biggest supporters of the Palestinian cause .
so I’ll not attack you because I know you are only ignorant about what’s happening right now as we are speaking and have been happening outside the sphere of your continent .
What is Hamas?
Hamas is a resistance movement
It wasn’t created from a vacuum
It was created DECADES after Israel started its occupation, massacres, apartheid, genocide, and ethnic cleansing.
formed under the rubbles of oppression. Formed after being forcefully evicted from their generational home and seeing their home given to a settler coming from abroad (systematical apartheid ).
Nothing about hamas’s attack was unprovoked.
As long as you have an occupation , ethnic cleansing and apartheid
No matter how many times you eradicate “Hamas” it will only raise again. You find such examples in every occupied place historically and the occupied /colonizer always call them militants and terrorists.
I never justified harm done to civilians
By any entity in any of my post s
But watering down the conflict to the 7th of October while fully knowing it’s an occupation and apartheid that has been going on for decades is not right heaven
and it’s very dangerous notion and logic.
Before the 7th of October , Israel in 2023 alone Israel has done several war crimes to the Palestinians which are documented but they don’t go viral on the medial because it’s their routine furthermore the media is controlled by the Zionists .
There is the occupier and occupied.
Not complicated.
Lastly, do not even compare the two when it comes to power 😅
Hamas used an Israeli tank to run down part of the wall that jailed them like animals and some elements within Hamas used the built up hatred for the unjust occupation to kill some civilians
And literally in order to escape the prison
They sky GLIDED out of Gaza
And used mostly home made rockets
On the other hand, you have one of the strongest militaries and again military (not some resistance “group”) in the world backed by the USA uk etc with nuclear power and
With some of the most sophisticated weapons in the world.
Are you following ?😅 I don’t think so.
Let me illustrate it to you,
In the last 2 weeks alone ,
Israel has dropped approximately 12,000 tons of explosives on Gaza .
Gaza is a strip that is smaller than eastern London yet it’s the most densely populated place on earth .
Each and every single explosive has hit a civilian building or and killed a civilian.
Entire neighborhoods have been entirely flattened.
Thousands of civilians killed
Including thousands of children &babies
Illegal war weapons such as white phosphorus has been used on the Palestinian civilians
They targeted even mosques churches hospitals journalists un facilities etc
Not only that
But they cut of electricity, water , food , fuel , humanitarian aid
From the entire population.
1.1 million people displaced
It’s not a siege Israel has always controlled their water food electricity etc it’s called the biggest open air prison or a concentration camp for a reason.
Do you know who are in Gaza?
2 million people
Mostly civilians
And worse 50% of them are children.
And worse, most of them are refugees who were forcefully displaced by Israel in the past and forced into this tiny strip.
What Hamas did compared to this is like a cute butterfly. By the way ,it’s still going on right now. Israel continues with its collective genocide in Gaza as we are speaking.
Justin Bieber woke up one day tryna catch up with the trend and posted a picture of a Gaza neighborhood brutally bombed by Israel and commented “praying for Israel” :
He’s currently a laughing stock. Ignorance is terrifying
Dark heaven,
You are a very dear person to me
And deep down I know you are a kind person.
You are also of Irish origin
And Ireland , the Irish and their pms are some of the biggest supporters of the Palestinian cause .
so I’ll not attack you because I know you are only ignorant about what’s happening right now as we are speaking and have been happening outside the sphere of your continent .
What is Hamas?
Hamas is a resistance movement
It wasn’t created from a vacuum
It was created DECADES after Israel started its occupation, massacres, apartheid, genocide, and ethnic cleansing.
formed under the rubbles of oppression. Formed after being forcefully evicted from their generational home and seeing their home given to a settler coming from abroad (systematical apartheid ).
Nothing about hamas’s attack was unprovoked.
As long as you have an occupation , ethnic cleansing and apartheid
No matter how many times you eradicate “Hamas” it will only raise again. You find such examples in every occupied place historically and the occupied /colonizer always call them militants and terrorists.
I never justified harm done to civilians
By any entity in any of my post s
But watering down the conflict to the 7th of October while fully knowing it’s an occupation and apartheid that has been going on for decades is not right heaven
and it’s very dangerous notion and logic.
Before the 7th of October , Israel in 2023 alone Israel has done several war crimes to the Palestinians which are documented but they don’t go viral on the medial because it’s their routine furthermore the media is controlled by the Zionists .
There is the occupier and occupied.
Not complicated.
Lastly, do not even compare the two when it comes to power 😅
Hamas used an Israeli tank to run down part of the wall that jailed them like animals and some elements within Hamas used the built up hatred for the unjust occupation to kill some civilians
And literally in order to escape the prison
They sky GLIDED out of Gaza
And used mostly home made rockets
On the other hand, you have one of the strongest militaries and again military (not some resistance “group”) in the world backed by the USA uk etc with nuclear power and
With some of the most sophisticated weapons in the world.
Are you following ?😅 I don’t think so.
Let me illustrate it to you,
In the last 2 weeks alone ,
Israel has dropped approximately 12,000 tons of explosives on Gaza .
Gaza is a strip that is smaller than eastern London yet it’s the most densely populated place on earth .
Each and every single explosive has hit a civilian building or and killed a civilian.
Entire neighborhoods have been entirely flattened.
Thousands of civilians killed
Including thousands of children &babies
Illegal war weapons such as white phosphorus has been used on the Palestinian civilians
They targeted even mosques churches hospitals journalists un facilities etc
Not only that
But they cut of electricity, water , food , fuel , humanitarian aid
From the entire population.
1.1 million people displaced
It’s not a siege Israel has always controlled their water food electricity etc it’s called the biggest open air prison or a concentration camp for a reason.
Do you know who are in Gaza?
2 million people
Mostly civilians
And worse 50% of them are children.
And worse, most of them are refugees who were forcefully displaced by Israel in the past and forced into this tiny strip.
What Hamas did compared to this is like a cute butterfly. By the way ,it’s still going on right now. Israel continues with its collective genocide in Gaza as we are speaking.
Justin Bieber woke up one day tryna catch up with the trend and posted a picture of a Gaza neighborhood brutally bombed by Israel and commented “praying for Israel” :
He’s currently a laughing stock. Ignorance is terrifying
@Moon3624 he just doesn’t know. I pray for everyone just trying to live their lives in peace. What Hamas did to the people at a peaceful festival was fucking horrible. Also doesn’t mean I support bombs being exploded on peaceful civilians in Gaza. But parading a young naked woman that they had killed in a pickup was kind of bad. Just saying. I can show pictures if you need context.
Moon3624 · 22-25, F
@JustGoneNow
“ What Hamas did to the people at a peaceful festival was fucking horrible”
Every year Israeli forces (military ) kill Palestinian children not just in Gaza but also in the West Bank and eastern Jerusalem where there is no Hamas
Steal Palestinian homes (document as illegal expansion)
Bomb Palestinians
And storm /raid their places of worship attacking them on their holy days such as on Ramadan
in fact few days before Hamas attack they stormed Palestinian places of worship
The question is
Where were you? I didn’t see you condemning Israel
In fact where was your voice as Palestinians have been suffering all these decades under this occupation ?
My point is
The hypocrisy.
acting as if Hamas started it and Israel only reacted which is vice versa
Or calling it a war
When it’s an occupation
Is misleading
I don’t care if you call Hamas terrorists as long as you call Israel a terrorist regime (statistically they are)
and to admit they are a settler colony which they are.
And the Palestinians don’t have a central government so it’s not like supporting Palestinians as a whole means supporting a specific entity
It means supporting the oppressed against the oppressors
And have you not read what I just wrote? I’m shocked you think they are comparable.
What Israel doing right now
Is a massive genocide on the most densely populated place on the planet
That isn’t comparable to Hamas’s doing
Especially not excused by a -military - and actual -government-
Let me illustrate , Israel in two weeks bombed a tiny strip that is made up of 50% children
More than USA bombed the entire country of Afghanistan during the first year of the American afghan war.
Please re read that carefully
moreover , while Hamas did in fact harm civilians which is terrible
Do not believe every headline about Hamas
A lot of them are bunch of Zionist lies .
And don’t do a picture contest honey
You’ll lose badly
For every 1 picture I can show you 100000000 from the Palestinian side
Don’t start an argument you’ll lose very badly.
It’s sad to see a person of Irish decedent being okay to colonization and occupation.
And the thing is I never justified Hamas
But you are talking as I’m okay with Israeli civilians being harmed
You are missing the point
I’m pointing out the hypocrisy
“ What Hamas did to the people at a peaceful festival was fucking horrible”
Every year Israeli forces (military ) kill Palestinian children not just in Gaza but also in the West Bank and eastern Jerusalem where there is no Hamas
Steal Palestinian homes (document as illegal expansion)
Bomb Palestinians
And storm /raid their places of worship attacking them on their holy days such as on Ramadan
in fact few days before Hamas attack they stormed Palestinian places of worship
The question is
Where were you? I didn’t see you condemning Israel
In fact where was your voice as Palestinians have been suffering all these decades under this occupation ?
My point is
The hypocrisy.
acting as if Hamas started it and Israel only reacted which is vice versa
Or calling it a war
When it’s an occupation
Is misleading
I don’t care if you call Hamas terrorists as long as you call Israel a terrorist regime (statistically they are)
and to admit they are a settler colony which they are.
And the Palestinians don’t have a central government so it’s not like supporting Palestinians as a whole means supporting a specific entity
It means supporting the oppressed against the oppressors
And have you not read what I just wrote? I’m shocked you think they are comparable.
What Israel doing right now
Is a massive genocide on the most densely populated place on the planet
That isn’t comparable to Hamas’s doing
Especially not excused by a -military - and actual -government-
Let me illustrate , Israel in two weeks bombed a tiny strip that is made up of 50% children
More than USA bombed the entire country of Afghanistan during the first year of the American afghan war.
Please re read that carefully
moreover , while Hamas did in fact harm civilians which is terrible
Do not believe every headline about Hamas
A lot of them are bunch of Zionist lies .
And don’t do a picture contest honey
You’ll lose badly
For every 1 picture I can show you 100000000 from the Palestinian side
Don’t start an argument you’ll lose very badly.
It’s sad to see a person of Irish decedent being okay to colonization and occupation.
And the thing is I never justified Hamas
But you are talking as I’m okay with Israeli civilians being harmed
You are missing the point
I’m pointing out the hypocrisy
@Moon3624 I don’t think you are okay with it. You are about peace like me. But please don’t assume my position based on my ethnicity. I make my own decisions and I agree with much that you have said, but killing peaceful people is wrong no matter the side. It’s wrong in Gaza, and wrong in the Negev Desert near the Kibbutz Re'im.
@Moon3624 denounce it all. I do.
Moon3624 · 22-25, F
@JustGoneNow
“ denounce it all. I do”
I denounce the murder of any civilian anywhere from the world.
And I already stated it before did you miss it ? How many times do I have to say it? I have said it plenty of times in our comment thread already lol
I just wish you showed this condemnation throughout the years as recent as this year as Palestinians suffered systematic occupation oppression and ethnic cleansing
so
I’m waiting for you to call Israel military/regime terrorist
And to call it a settler colony
You still have not said it
doesn’t that make you the hypocrite here ? This is maybe the third message. Im waiting.
You cannot solve a problem without identifying it
If you cannot identify clearly that Israel military /regime is a terrorist and it’s an occupation and apartheid
Then you cannot have peace or a “solution”
So plz go return to your bubble world and Barbie world
“but killing peaceful people is wrong no matter the side. It’s wrong in Gaza, and wrong in the Negev Desert near the Kibbutz Re'im.”
Any sane person doesn’t agree with any civilian death
But that isn’t the topic of my posts
My recent posts were all about exposing the hypocrisy.
If one actually does research
Both sides (Russian and Ukrainian) did war crimes since the war started
However Russian military started it and their crimes are on a much bigger scale
Russia = Israel
Palestine =Ukraine
Maybe then you’ll find it simpler to understand
Actually they’re not the same since Ukraine is represented by a military while Palestine has no military or a central government that represents them all
I’m surprised you see people oppressed and suffocated then ur shocked when a few (not the majority ) lash out
“ denounce it all. I do”
I denounce the murder of any civilian anywhere from the world.
And I already stated it before did you miss it ? How many times do I have to say it? I have said it plenty of times in our comment thread already lol
I just wish you showed this condemnation throughout the years as recent as this year as Palestinians suffered systematic occupation oppression and ethnic cleansing
so
I’m waiting for you to call Israel military/regime terrorist
And to call it a settler colony
You still have not said it
doesn’t that make you the hypocrite here ? This is maybe the third message. Im waiting.
You cannot solve a problem without identifying it
If you cannot identify clearly that Israel military /regime is a terrorist and it’s an occupation and apartheid
Then you cannot have peace or a “solution”
So plz go return to your bubble world and Barbie world
“but killing peaceful people is wrong no matter the side. It’s wrong in Gaza, and wrong in the Negev Desert near the Kibbutz Re'im.”
Any sane person doesn’t agree with any civilian death
But that isn’t the topic of my posts
My recent posts were all about exposing the hypocrisy.
If one actually does research
Both sides (Russian and Ukrainian) did war crimes since the war started
However Russian military started it and their crimes are on a much bigger scale
Russia = Israel
Palestine =Ukraine
Maybe then you’ll find it simpler to understand
Actually they’re not the same since Ukraine is represented by a military while Palestine has no military or a central government that represents them all
I’m surprised you see people oppressed and suffocated then ur shocked when a few (not the majority ) lash out
@Moon3624 they attacked a women at a festival and raped her, and paraded her naked body in a pickup for the world to see. Please don’t justify this. We have little to talk about if this seems okay to you.
@Moon3624 she looked fun. She was a tattoo artist. everyone I’ve heard talk says she was a really neat girl.
@Moon3624 that was her at the festival before she was beaten, raped, and murdered.
@JustGoneNow
https://metro.co.uk/2023/10/08/mum-learns-daughter-was-taken-by-hamas-after-seeing-her-body-paraded-on-streets-19626670/amp/
https://metro.co.uk/2023/10/08/mum-learns-daughter-was-taken-by-hamas-after-seeing-her-body-paraded-on-streets-19626670/amp/
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@Moon3624 why are you yelling at me and calling me names? I’ve not even disagreed with anything that you’ve said on any of these replies. I do agree that there has been ample suffering on the Palestinian side for generations and have made similar points on other posts in regards to the conflict. I’ve not been mean or cursed at you at any point here or called you names at all. I’ve only maintained that it makes what happened at the start of this one (including the capture, beating, rape, murder, and showcasing of that innocent woman,) no less sad for the people and families affected. I don’t deserve what you’ve said and done to me at all here. My refusal to vilify an entire people for certain individual’s part that weren’t even at this festival, includes the innocent Palestinian people as well as Israeli. If you need to block me, then go for it. My self worth is in no way tied up with if I “fell from your eyes” or not, but as someone who has been very understanding of your issues that we’ve discussed at length, I’d suggest you read back all of my replies and then yours and take a bit of a look in the mirror. I totally get that you are very angry with all of the other horrible things that have been done to the the Palestinian people both before and after but you are not the only one allowed anger. I’m not a blind supporter of Israel or what horrible things their government has done to the Palestinian people at all but we both know what happened at this festival was also a complete slaughter. We can be kind and strong at the same time. And we don’t have to hate people to despise certain people in their culture’s actions or also want and demand accountability for what has been done… including the horrible things done by the Israeli government… you are right, it’s well documented. Many things are, including what Hamas does to their own people… people like you and me.
Either way, do what you must but my very first reply was 100% agreeing with you that what happened at the church was just as horrible as what Hamas did at the festival… which was the same point you were making, I thought. I literally was agreeing with the hypocrisy of it, when you first decided to “enlighten” me. It was my very first reply. Your replies after make it seem as if you’re trying to compare horrors as if you’re okay with “a few lashing out” because “they’ve done worse.” It’s not but whatever. I wish you well but I will not agree with any of the hate on either side of it all for any reason at all.
Suffering is suffering, period. And all of it is towards innocent people is bad, and none of it is justified by either side no matter what.
Either way, do what you must but my very first reply was 100% agreeing with you that what happened at the church was just as horrible as what Hamas did at the festival… which was the same point you were making, I thought. I literally was agreeing with the hypocrisy of it, when you first decided to “enlighten” me. It was my very first reply. Your replies after make it seem as if you’re trying to compare horrors as if you’re okay with “a few lashing out” because “they’ve done worse.” It’s not but whatever. I wish you well but I will not agree with any of the hate on either side of it all for any reason at all.
Suffering is suffering, period. And all of it is towards innocent people is bad, and none of it is justified by either side no matter what.
@Moon3624 I will pray for you as I pray for many here. And if you ever cared about me at all, I’d ask that maybe you pray for me too. This month has been one of the worst of my entire life, and I have to admit that I didn’t read or be able to make sense of everything that you were posting as you were posting it because I’m on a hell of a lot of medication for my mental illness issues that I’ve been struggling hard with and some of them are very new. The only part last night that was made very clear was you were becoming increasingly more angry and hostile to me… yelling at me, cursing at me, and telling me to suck dick which I still don’t understand why you think I deserved as I was neither mean nor disrespectful to you at all. Anyways, be well. 🦋
@Moon3624 I also didn’t understand what you were trying to tell me about Ireland. I didn’t know the Irish supported the innocent Palestinians but I’m glad they do, as the vast majority are just trying to live their lives in peace and are completely caught in the middle of two bullies that let their war spill out into their lives. It’s wrong, all of it. Although I don’t live in a cave, I have commented on the atrocities that have been perpetrated on innocent Palestinians, including your post about both Muslims and Christians taking refuge from the strikes in a church. You don’t really know all the comments I’ve made in general, so I’m not sure why you are telling me that I’ve been silent. Cause I haven’t.
@Moon3624
Reading this back, I maybe should have said “We can denounce” not you. I didn’t mean you specifically but you as in a person can. Obviously I feel that you specifically are against violence, that’s why your anger to me was so confusing. If me saying “you” like I was telling you what to do like I was assuming you don’t already, then I’m sorry. That’s where text fails, I guess. And I was on a lot of drugs, so my wording could have been clearer. I was actually agreeing with your post, though. For the record.
You can denounce Hamas and also denounce this. Senseless violence is wrong, irregardless the perpetrator.
Reading this back, I maybe should have said “We can denounce” not you. I didn’t mean you specifically but you as in a person can. Obviously I feel that you specifically are against violence, that’s why your anger to me was so confusing. If me saying “you” like I was telling you what to do like I was assuming you don’t already, then I’m sorry. That’s where text fails, I guess. And I was on a lot of drugs, so my wording could have been clearer. I was actually agreeing with your post, though. For the record.