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Carazaa · F
There is one God in 3 persons, The Father, Son, and The Holy Spirit
John 14:15-31
Jesus Promises the Holy Spirit
15 “If you love me, keep my commands. 16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be[a] in you. 18 I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. 19 Before long, the world will not see me anymore, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live. 20 On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you. 21 Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them.”
John 14:15-31
Jesus Promises the Holy Spirit
15 “If you love me, keep my commands. 16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be[a] in you. 18 I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. 19 Before long, the world will not see me anymore, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live. 20 On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you. 21 Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them.”
seotelkniwt · F
@Carazaa Why does Jesus have to ask the Father if Jesus is God? Doesn't make sense to me 🙅♀️🤷🤷♂️🤦
seotelkniwt · F
@Carazaa John 1:18 - "No man has seen God AT ANY TIME" People saw Jesus, so he is not God. The Bible also shows at Exodus 33:18-20 that Moses wanted to see God’s glory,
but God told Moses: "...You CANNOT see my face, for no man can see me and live."
Also, when Jesus was in the Garden of Gethsemane who was he praying to? Himself or his Father in the heavens? Jesus prayed to have "...this cup removed...". So the question is: If Jesus was God why did he need to pray to himself to have his upcoming death, "cup" removed? (Matthew 26:39). If he were God couldn't he was removed that "cup" himself?
And what about the time when Jesus was baptized and a voice out of heaven and said "...This is my son, the beloved, whom I have approved." (Matthew 3:17). Was Jesus throwing his voice like a ventriloquist to make it appear like his heavenly Father was talking to him?, Was Jesus giving his own self, approval? Was he patting himself on the back and approving his own self? That would be deception and the Bible says Jesus was sinless. (1Peter 2:22).That verse at Matthew 3:17 doesn't say Jesus spoke a word. So, he's not God.
but God told Moses: "...You CANNOT see my face, for no man can see me and live."
Also, when Jesus was in the Garden of Gethsemane who was he praying to? Himself or his Father in the heavens? Jesus prayed to have "...this cup removed...". So the question is: If Jesus was God why did he need to pray to himself to have his upcoming death, "cup" removed? (Matthew 26:39). If he were God couldn't he was removed that "cup" himself?
And what about the time when Jesus was baptized and a voice out of heaven and said "...This is my son, the beloved, whom I have approved." (Matthew 3:17). Was Jesus throwing his voice like a ventriloquist to make it appear like his heavenly Father was talking to him?, Was Jesus giving his own self, approval? Was he patting himself on the back and approving his own self? That would be deception and the Bible says Jesus was sinless. (1Peter 2:22).That verse at Matthew 3:17 doesn't say Jesus spoke a word. So, he's not God.
Carazaa · F
@seotelkniwt There is God the Father, Son and The Holy Spirit. People did see Jesus, that's why he came so people could see God's likeness. We can not see the Father. Because he is a spirit.
seotelkniwt · F
@Carazaa So if you can't see God then that proves that Jesus is not God. JOHN 1:18 and EXODUS 33:20. What Bible verse says Jesus calls himself God? And where does it say we should worship Jesus because he is God? The Bible is clear when it speaks about Jesus and God being two separate individuals. And the holy spirit is simply God's active force that Jehovah God uses to accomplish His will and purpose toward mankind. The holy spirit is not an individual spirit entity.