Carlam · 70-79, F
The concept of the Trinity, the idea that God exists as three persons in one essence—Father, Son, and Holy Spirit—is a central doctrine in many Christian denominations. However, it is not explicitly outlined in the Bible in the way it is understood in later Christian theology.
The term "Trinity" itself does not appear in the Bible, and the doctrine was developed over several centuries as early Christians reflected on and interpreted various biblical texts. Key passages that are often cited in support of the Trinitarian concept include:
Matthew 28:19: Jesus instructs his followers to baptize "in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit."
2 Corinthians 13:14: Paul offers a blessing that mentions the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
John 14:16-17: Jesus speaks of the Father sending the Holy Spirit, implying a distinction between the three.
The formal doctrine of the Trinity was more clearly articulated in the early ecumenical councils, such as the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD and the Council of Constantinople in 381 AD. These councils aimed to address and clarify theological disagreements and to affirm the orthodox understanding of the relationship between the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
So, while the specific term and detailed doctrine of the Trinity are not explicitly found in the Bible, the theological concept is derived from interpreting various biblical passages and reflecting on the nature of God as revealed in Scripture.
The term "Trinity" itself does not appear in the Bible, and the doctrine was developed over several centuries as early Christians reflected on and interpreted various biblical texts. Key passages that are often cited in support of the Trinitarian concept include:
Matthew 28:19: Jesus instructs his followers to baptize "in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit."
2 Corinthians 13:14: Paul offers a blessing that mentions the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
John 14:16-17: Jesus speaks of the Father sending the Holy Spirit, implying a distinction between the three.
The formal doctrine of the Trinity was more clearly articulated in the early ecumenical councils, such as the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD and the Council of Constantinople in 381 AD. These councils aimed to address and clarify theological disagreements and to affirm the orthodox understanding of the relationship between the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
So, while the specific term and detailed doctrine of the Trinity are not explicitly found in the Bible, the theological concept is derived from interpreting various biblical passages and reflecting on the nature of God as revealed in Scripture.
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Carlam · 70-79, F
@seotelkniwt Thank you for sharing your perspective. I understand that the doctrine of the Trinity can be a complex and debated topic. It's true that the term "Trinity" itself isn't found in the Bible, but many theologians believe it reflects an interpretation of various biblical passages about the nature of God and the relationship between the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
I agree that God is a God of logic and order, and I appreciate your concern about clarity in our understanding of Him. It’s important for each of us to explore and understand these concepts deeply and thoughtfully.
Regarding Jesus and His divinity, interpretations vary widely among scholars and believers. Some see His statements and actions as indicative of a divine nature, while others interpret them differently.
Thank you again for sharing your views.
I agree that God is a God of logic and order, and I appreciate your concern about clarity in our understanding of Him. It’s important for each of us to explore and understand these concepts deeply and thoughtfully.
Regarding Jesus and His divinity, interpretations vary widely among scholars and believers. Some see His statements and actions as indicative of a divine nature, while others interpret them differently.
Thank you again for sharing your views.
seotelkniwt · F
@Carlam Please keep in mind that what I share is not my own perspective or thoughts or ideas What I share are the Bible's standards, Bible laws, Bible principles, and Bible truths. Like Jesus, I share God's thoughts, commands and directives from His word the Bible. I'm just a messenger declaring the good news accurately from the Bible.
Carlam · 70-79, F
@seotelkniwt While I may approach these topics from a different perspective, I believe meaningful dialogue can help us better understand each other’s viewpoints. Let’s continue to engage respectfully, appreciating the diversity of perspectives .
Carazaa · F
There is one God in 3 persons, The Father, Son, and The Holy Spirit
John 14:15-31
Jesus Promises the Holy Spirit
15 “If you love me, keep my commands. 16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be[a] in you. 18 I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. 19 Before long, the world will not see me anymore, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live. 20 On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you. 21 Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them.”
John 14:15-31
Jesus Promises the Holy Spirit
15 “If you love me, keep my commands. 16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be[a] in you. 18 I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. 19 Before long, the world will not see me anymore, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live. 20 On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you. 21 Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them.”
seotelkniwt · F
@Carazaa John 1:18 - "No man has seen God AT ANY TIME" People saw Jesus, so he is not God. The Bible also shows at Exodus 33:18-20 that Moses wanted to see God’s glory,
but God told Moses: "...You CANNOT see my face, for no man can see me and live."
Also, when Jesus was in the Garden of Gethsemane who was he praying to? Himself or his Father in the heavens? Jesus prayed to have "...this cup removed...". So the question is: If Jesus was God why did he need to pray to himself to have his upcoming death, "cup" removed? (Matthew 26:39). If he were God couldn't he was removed that "cup" himself?
And what about the time when Jesus was baptized and a voice out of heaven and said "...This is my son, the beloved, whom I have approved." (Matthew 3:17). Was Jesus throwing his voice like a ventriloquist to make it appear like his heavenly Father was talking to him?, Was Jesus giving his own self, approval? Was he patting himself on the back and approving his own self? That would be deception and the Bible says Jesus was sinless. (1Peter 2:22).That verse at Matthew 3:17 doesn't say Jesus spoke a word. So, he's not God.
but God told Moses: "...You CANNOT see my face, for no man can see me and live."
Also, when Jesus was in the Garden of Gethsemane who was he praying to? Himself or his Father in the heavens? Jesus prayed to have "...this cup removed...". So the question is: If Jesus was God why did he need to pray to himself to have his upcoming death, "cup" removed? (Matthew 26:39). If he were God couldn't he was removed that "cup" himself?
And what about the time when Jesus was baptized and a voice out of heaven and said "...This is my son, the beloved, whom I have approved." (Matthew 3:17). Was Jesus throwing his voice like a ventriloquist to make it appear like his heavenly Father was talking to him?, Was Jesus giving his own self, approval? Was he patting himself on the back and approving his own self? That would be deception and the Bible says Jesus was sinless. (1Peter 2:22).That verse at Matthew 3:17 doesn't say Jesus spoke a word. So, he's not God.
Carazaa · F
@seotelkniwt There is God the Father, Son and The Holy Spirit. People did see Jesus, that's why he came so people could see God's likeness. We can not see the Father. Because he is a spirit.
seotelkniwt · F
@Carazaa So if you can't see God then that proves that Jesus is not God. JOHN 1:18 and EXODUS 33:20. What Bible verse says Jesus calls himself God? And where does it say we should worship Jesus because he is God? The Bible is clear when it speaks about Jesus and God being two separate individuals. And the holy spirit is simply God's active force that Jehovah God uses to accomplish His will and purpose toward mankind. The holy spirit is not an individual spirit entity.
Why didn't Jesus condemn those who worshiped him? Why did he refer to himself as "I AM" and "The Alpha and Omega?"
And that's just for starters.
And that's just for starters.
@seotelkniwt https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-worshipped.html
seotelkniwt · F
@BritishFailedAesthetic send a hyperlink sir
seotelkniwt · F
@BritishFailedAesthetic Why can't you find a Bible verse in the Bible? Google is not inspired of God.
IPmyPants · 41-45, M
Genesis 1:26 Then God said. "Let Us make man in Our image.
Us and Our. Who is HE talking too?
Mathew 28:19 (Jesus speaking) "Go. therefore and make disciples of of all the nations. baptizing them in the name of the FATHER, and the SON, and the HOLY SPIRIT.
Us and Our. Who is HE talking too?
Mathew 28:19 (Jesus speaking) "Go. therefore and make disciples of of all the nations. baptizing them in the name of the FATHER, and the SON, and the HOLY SPIRIT.
laurieluvsit · 26-30, F
Can't.
One person is a mother, a daughter and a sister. All 3 titles belong to the same person.
Most in the triple God churches think that but not the leadership. They think they will see 3 Gods when they get to heaven. Wrong.
One person is a mother, a daughter and a sister. All 3 titles belong to the same person.
Most in the triple God churches think that but not the leadership. They think they will see 3 Gods when they get to heaven. Wrong.
seotelkniwt · F
@laurieluvsit I apologize, let me go back and read your reply. What faith are you? I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
laurieluvsit · 26-30, F
@seotelkniwt
I am a protestant Christian. I edited my original post to make it more clear :)
I am a protestant Christian. I edited my original post to make it more clear :)
seotelkniwt · F
@laurieluvsit Ok sounds good ❤️
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seotelkniwt · F
@ToddpicogramakaSatan All 3 are false doctrine and teachings. The so-called 3 headed god is not in the Bible and the word Trinity is not in the Bible. The Bible says there is only "one" God, not 3 in 1. (Deuteronomy 6:4, Mark 12:29).
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