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Religion: Origins

As far as we can determine there has never existed any people anywhere at any time who were not in some sense of the word religious. It is only recently, however, that careful study of the origins of religion and its development has been undertaken. Throughout most of mankind’s history ones religious tradition was something one was born into without choice, often without the knowledge of any other alternative. In the 19th century, with mass migration, and improved means of communication and travel that began to change.

The arrival of scientific inquiry and especially the theory of evolution also inspired the intellectual to question established institutions including religion. Through the methodology of anthropology, sociology and psychology mankind strived to search through the human mind as well as the ruins of ancient civilizations to find answers about his spiritual past and present yearnings.

Some of the theories that were most prominent were that religion sprang from primitive people’s belief that the immortal soul remained after death, inhabiting the things around them. Dreams, hallucinations and visions of dead ancestors allegedly inspired this. Then came the idea that primitive people believed, not in the personal immortal soul, but rather, the impersonal supernatural force which controlled everything. This supposedly came from a fear and awe of the unknown. Another theory suggests that religion came from magic - an attempt to control the environment around our primitive ancestors by imitating nature. Sprinkling water while beating drums to sound like thunder would produce rain, for example.

It is impossible to guess, with any degree of accuracy or ability to confirm, the origins of religion. More often these theories are veiled attempts to explain religion away by dismissing early forms to have been based upon illusions, ignorance and fear, thereby undermining religion in general. No tenable explanations have been introduced and yet from a faulty premise the illusion of a sound conclusion is, somewhat ironically, based more upon ignorance and fear. Science and religion have a great deal more in common than either would care to admit.

It is also apparent that many of the concepts of the world religions, though separated geographically, traditionally, culturally, and socially, have a great deal more in common than one might think.
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JSul3 · 70-79
Religion: devised by men, using fear to control the masses, and keep women subservient.
HarryHawk · 61-69, M
@JSul3 it's not working like that in my house
@JSul3 No. That isn't an accurate description of religion. Religion wasn't designed to control the masses it was adapted - distorted for control by the masses.
@HarryHawk It rarely does. I'm not married myself but that's almost always the way it goes.
JSul3 · 70-79
@HarryHawk Good for you! Let me ask you....at your church, would your wife be able to become a preacher?
JSul3 · 70-79
@AkioTsukino Religion is based upon fear.
@JSul3 I don't belong to any organized religion so don't go to any church, but the Bible says that women could teach if men weren't available only if they wore a head covering to signify God's arrangement in the Christian congregation. I was reading your other thread last night, about your discussion with a pastor and his wife's subsequent request for your wife to knit her head coverings. I don't think women need to cover their heads to pray unless they are leading the congregation in prayer when no man was present to do so. Was that you?
@JSul3 Define fear and give some examples. Do you mean religion in general or a specific religion?
JSul3 · 70-79
@AkioTsukino There are numerous examples of fear in both New & Old Testament.

The major source of fear by religions is simple. It is death. The uncertainty that comes after...if anything....or nothing.
Fear sells. Fear controls. Fear gets votes.
@JSul3 [quote]There are numerous examples of fear in both New & Old Testament.

The major source of fear by religions is simple. It is death. The uncertainty that comes after...if anything....or nothing.
Fear sells. Fear controls. Fear gets votes.[/quote]

Fear is the mind killer. God doesn't like cowardice. https://www.openbible.info/topics/cowards
JSul3 · 70-79
@AkioTsukino He may not, but 'according to scripture' he turned a woman into a pillar of salt, drowned mankind in a flood, except for a 'select few'....threats of death and/or eternal damnation into hades for disobeying....he is a vengeful god

With stories like this, it's easy to use fear to control the sheep, from a man standing behind a pulpit.
@JSul3 Well, that's the thing, you see. It didn't work. If God was such a monster and his sheep so frightful, how come they did everything wrong?
JSul3 · 70-79
@AkioTsukino Well, people are turning away from religion in droves.
Axeroberts · 56-60, M
@JSul3 But if God didn't even exist why would people follow it?
JSul3 · 70-79
@Axeroberts Again, fear.

Breaking Free from Fear-Based Religion
BY SOFO ARCHON

Our fear of death has made us believe in anything, no matter how silly it is. And this fear is being exploited by those cunning, power-hungry ones who are willing to propound all sorts of religious ideologies to psychologically entrap us: priests, gurus, religious teachers of all kinds. The basic reason why so many of us believe and follow the dogmas of religion is fear.
What are we afraid of?
We fear many things, but all of our fears ultimately come down to one basic fear: the fear of death — that is, the fear of temporarity, insubstantiality, emptiness.
Fear has made us accept and blindly follow dogmatic religious beliefs. Yet, we have no viable evidence to support those beliefs. In fact, we never took a single moment to question the validity of the beliefs that we hold in dear faith — again, out of fear. In the Western world, many of us have been conditioned to think that to question the rightness of our religion means to sin and end up in hell, and who in his or her right mind would risk being thrown into hellfire?
The problem with religious belief systems is that they prevent us from seeking truth. They offer ready-made answers to nearly all of our existential questions, and this way we don’t have to worry over them. And since the search for truth can be arduous, most people are not willing to endure the hardship one has to undergo in the process of finding it — instead, they just sit back and pretend that they know everything.
Ignorance is, in a sense, bliss, and fundamentalist religion keeps us tied to ignorance by consoling us; it is singing us lullabies so that we can remain in a deep state of sleep. But no matter how peacefully we might seem to sleep, one day nightmares are going to abruptly wake us up — and this will be a painful process.
Axeroberts · 56-60, M
@JSul3 fear would not matter to a non-believer, like you even
JSul3 · 70-79
@Axeroberts I am an agnostic. I am not a believer in the god that the bible speaks of. I have questions that no one can answer. If given the opportunity to stand before 'god' I want answers to my questions.
I do not fear death. I came to terms with death many years ago. Death is the great equalizer. I can't speak for others about what they fear or do not fear.
I don't think anyone looks forward to death, unless they are in severe pain and their quality of life sucks. My curiosity about what happens next here each day is what drives me. If my health remains good, I want to stay around as long as I can to see daily events....if it goes south, I am out of here.
Axeroberts · 56-60, M
@JSul3 there are people with all sorts of feelings on both sides of belief