If you made a new religion what kind would it be and what would it be based on?

@RuyLopez no that would require a god.

@popmol Yes. The God. It is my religion remember.

@RuyLopez so its not human nature thats the issue

@popmol I disagree. It is precisely human nature that is the issue.

@RuyLopez no its because theres no god.

@popmol Says you.

@RuyLopez look if a magical voice in the sky would start stating rules clearly not "through" a human than i'd be more inclined to believe it.
but until now there has been no proven god.
all the books and stories from each mythology and religion has been written by man, they can call it "divinely inspired" who cares.
it's all nonesense

@popmol Why would God not have his words transcribed by men. Seems fairly efficient if you ask me. Definitely proven its efficacy. You know...target marketing and all.

@RuyLopez he purposely made men flawed than expect them to get it right? if your god is almighty, he is insanely stupid.
write it in the sky, have some imagination! write it on the moon! something?

@popmol Why? Because you demand it of him. Try that with Joe Biden. See how that works out for you. I only use Joe Biden here as he is the current President.

@RuyLopez joe isn't a god. he has nothing to do with this.

@popmol It is an analogy my friend. Do you not understand it?

@RuyLopez not a good one, joe isn't omnipotent, a god is. it's comparing an ant with the supermassive blackhole at the center of our universe.

@popmol So you think the God of the universe(s) who is omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient should respond to your demands but your President is exempt because he is too busy?

@RuyLopez yes because the president is a person. and the guy who supposedly made all of reality and us included can't bring himself to turn the clouds in a simple set of rules.
than he wants no rules and he is just playing with us. WHICH MAKES HIM *drum roll* A SICK TWISTED FUCK.

god is never busy, he is all knowing allmighty, he can do everything at once. he has no concept of "busy"

@popmol That was a bit dramatic, yes? You seem to have some pent up hostility. Can you not discuss the concept of God without insults and anger. If you believe in any of the Abrahamic religions than there are only 10 simple rules. Most religions are fairly simple at their core. Again you seem to think when you command God, who is beyond space and time, he must do exactly as you tell him or he doesn't exist. You think you can demand of God something you can not even demand of a simple man that is your governmental leader. If you were that powerful than you would be a god. If so, my request is that you drop the temperature a few degrees. Not all over just around the central part of the US would be sufficient. Let's start smaller. Try it with your Governor?

@RuyLopez i insulted an imaginary nonesensical concept. like you can't be omnipotent and all loving.

yes those basic rules are pretty simple, not good but simple.
but than theres a whole book of fables saying things like townsfolk rape my daughters instead of the angel we just found because thats somehow better.
that slavery and rape and extreme patriarchy is good. and the likes.

NO NO NO! you completely misunderstood! god doesn't have to do anything. you are ABSOLUTELY correct! but if he wants to make sure people believe he exist and not be just the image desperate and illogical people have in their brain he has to prove it some way!

uuhm a simple man can prove he exists as he is there :p again your analogies don't work. compare him to a ghost! thats more accurate but again how does a ghost get proven real, they can't

AND, of course i cannot discus the concept of a god without insults and anger.
the worst parts of society, humanity, this planet, our history, RELIGION AND THEIR IMAGINARY FUCKING BASTARDS OF GODS are the cause for the cancers of all of it!

@popmol The analogy only has to do with putting yourself in a position to demand anything from God. Demanding something from anyone usually is a bad approach. Unless they are your children or owe you money. You do have immense anger in your heart though it appears. Why would any one that you spew such venom at appear to you at all? Yours is a self fulfilling prophecy I’m afraid.

@RuyLopez ooh i don't expect him to appear to me, but if he did he has some explaining to do.
but those who truly believe in them? why does he not show them?

@popmol Who says he doesn’t? You ever thought maybe he would try to communicate to people through others? Maybe he is doing it now? But of course you would never believe that would you.

@RuyLopez if he does it selectively he is one sick joke.
he could fix the world yet doesn't but claims to be all loving.
what a joke.
All the desperate people in pits of despair begging for their god to help relieve their suffering. falling even more because of the idea.

@popmol Yes, life is hard. Terrible for many. Do you wish God exercised total and complete control? No poverty, no hunger, no violence, no sickness, no death, no accidents, no catastrophes, no greed, no lust, no anger, no sadness, no ambition, no longing, no uncertainty, no questioning, no curiosity, no wonder, no other path than one determined for you. That must sound like utopia to you?

@RuyLopez if 99% of the world is horrible and you must be lucky and skillfull to reach that 1% to than hail over the rest in agony and the god can fix it yes.
and 99% of people need can't even get that 1% because they weren't born the right place and time to even get a chance to get to that one percent.

@popmol I am not following your point here. Would you apply that conundrum to drug and Alcohol addicts? Are you familiar with the 12 step program?

@RuyLopez no because they aren't into a hypocritic god xD
never heard of it. is it religious? if it is i don't need it!