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Interesting encounter

I always read between the lines, like when someone asks a question, but I know they want to know something else. So yesterday, I was hanging out with this lady and I could tell she wanted to know my religious views. She was probably just curious, but she didn't want to ask a direct question. When she asked, so what is the majority religion of where you come from; although it is well known what it is.. then she asked me at lunch of the things I would not eat or drink..

To be honest, I try to avoid talking about religion with anyone... So even though I knew what she was getting at, I still did not give a direct answer about myself, but answered her questions..

It is just a deep and an unpleasant subject to talk about with people.. I've had so many chats with different people since I reached Canada, and of course the easy subject to pick to talk about with strangers, is where you come from and whether I am here for study or something else etc.. I always answer to that, as me looking for a more open culture, which is basically a sugarcoat of the MAIN REASON, which is me being an ex Muslim and wanting to live in free country, but I wouldn't want to get into that, with passing strangers making casual talks..

But yesterday since our talks were long, I also talked about another reason, which is that I am a Palestinian refugee, who doesn't have a home country. I mean, literally up until now, I had no country which I am legally entitled to reside in permanently... What I didn't realise while I was talking about this, is that she is Jewish!! I worked this out though by the end of yesterday from some bits and pieces that she said about herself and about her family, but I wasn't sure since she seems unreligious overall. But when I talked about this, she really gave me no indication whatsoever of her origins, she was just compassionate like any normal human being would respond to such an issue.

Today, our talk led to relationships and here I felt she took the opportunity to ask me a direct question of whether my religion would allow it.. well it was direct enough for me to say that I was unreligious, but then she kept staring at me as if the word unreligious was not enough lol, until i said I was an ex Muslim. She was like; yea I was wondering yesterday and I sort of knew when i saw you drinking.. I almost said, yea I knew you were wondering lol

Then I took the liberty to ask about Judaism and about her, since I am always very interested to learn about religions , and I have to say, I learned some things .. She was indeed Jewish, but very unreligious, and I can't help but think that if we both were religious, there would be this tension and weird unrealistic despise.. I can't help but think that religions are like memberships in exclusive clubs, whereby the members of each club would look down on others who don't belong.. It doesn't matter how tolerant you are, you will still view your club as superior and winning, or else, you wouldn't be in it, as simple as that.
LegendofPeza · 56-60, M
I don't blame you for giving religion a big swerve as a topic for conversation. Did you know that in the UK anyone who starts to talk about that crap instantly labels themself as some kind of weirdo ? It's truly one of the things I can honestly say I'm proud of about the country.

Anyway , sounds like you're having a great time. Keep on posting !
BittersweetPotato · 31-35, F
@LegendofPeza In the middle east, people talk about religion all the time, and they also take the liberty to advise you on what you should and should not do, because they assume everyone should be practicing, and that they are doing you a favour.. The thing people fail to understand, especially where I come from, the middle east/the muslim world, is that secular countries like Canada are not necessarily against religion, as much as they are just neutral to it.. People don't go around talking against religion, nor do they talk for religion, it just does not have that big of a role in their lives.. I like having intellectual talks about religion, and I like to talk about my experience with religion, but I am definitely not engaging in such conversations with about anyone ..
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But then there's an important question you haven't answered: what were you having during these conversations? And what were you drinking?
BittersweetPotato · 31-35, F
@EarthlingWise well I had fried calamari with fires (of course non potato 🥔🥴) with water ..i don't do soda much, I just naturally do not like a lot of unhealthy things like soda and many sweets 🤷‍♀️ I didn't have a drink until the very end of the tour really, when we were on the boat and I wanted to taste what the heck a whiskey with maple syrup taste like O.o
Foreverconfused · 56-60, F
I always love it when people from differing backgrounds can see past the common foolishness of labels. But religeon is not the only form of discrimination. However it is in the minds of many. But we have much bigger issues. To deal with than religeon. Basic education about differing point of views, and … a need to discover truth.

I am so glad you were both cautious. I hope it turns out you have a great friendship, and a story to tell all!!!!
BittersweetPotato · 31-35, F
@Foreverconfused Well, maybe where you are, but where I come from, religion is a major factor in so many big problems like censorship sexual harassment, suppression etc. I think these are very serious problems. That's aside from the fact that people are literally afraid to think for themselves, if they can't think, you can't expect much from such a nation.
Foreverconfused · 56-60, F
@BittersweetPotato yes, you are right. Most religious leaders use fear to control its people. … and at another extreme, But not everyone will manage knowledge responsibly …what’s thrown at them…There is a time for everything… and sometimes it takes experience to understand other peoples suffering — just rambling a little.
SW-User
What an interesting experience and dialogue.
I am glad you were able to have those good conversations with that Jewish lady.
I do disagree with your last point, though. I'm a religious Jew and you could have had as good a conversation with me. I think that open people are open and closed people are closed, whether they are religious or unreligious.
SW-User
@LegendofPeza it's not "instead", it's also. There are preachy dogmatic religious people and there are preachy dogmatic atheists. Fortunately not all of them are like that, either all atheists or all religious people.
LegendofPeza · 56-60, M
@SW-User Well I've encountered plenty of preachy dogmatic religious people but never an atheist who fits that description.
SW-User
@LegendofPeza our experiences differ.
She sounds like an interesting person to hang out with.
BittersweetPotato · 31-35, F
@PiecingBabyFaceTogether She is, and you can talk with her about much
@BittersweetPotato Much cooler than this Romanian lady I met that was basically promoting Islam and how awesome this country is in her opinion. She gave me a headache lol one thing she said at the start though is that she doesn't need a lot to be happy but then she ruined it by talking too much about Eid and such.
Viper · M
You are always welcome to the state of confusion that is more commonly known as SW with us 🤗

 
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