I Am Fascinated By Science, Religion, and Philosophy

@hippyjoe1955 Why does it fail. If life exists and then changes over time, isn't that evolution?

@Bushranger How did life come to exist? How did life live long enough to evolve? What about life makes it able to evolve and not simply become extinct?

@hippyjoe1955 So, because I can't define how life first came about, the process of evolution does not exist?

@Bushranger If you can't get it started...... What do you call a dog with no legs? Doesn't matter it won't come anyways. Same with evolution. If it can't start it can't happen.

@hippyjoe1955 evolution doesn't attempt to explain the origin of life, just the origin of species!

@SW-User Yeah sure if you believe that I have some swamp land on the moon for sale. You can see the ocean from there.

@hippyjoe1955 I could take the dog out for a drag. So, you obviously don't believe in evolution in any shape or form. All organisms were created in the exact form that they currently exist.

@Bushranger There is no evidence in support of evolution. We see various fossil remains that indicate other species once existed and likely died out but each species is unique unto itself. Our speculation that this species evolved into that species remains pure speculation.

@hippyjoe1955 So the science of genetics is just a myth?

@hippyjoe1955 you are one crazy mofo! I suggest you hand yourself in to the police!

@Bushranger Genetics doesn't prove evolution any more than mechanics explain various cars.

Causation is about Origin, not evolution. Only once something exists can it come under pressure to evolve. Funnily enough even the Bible is pretty sketchy about the cause of Creation. Maybe we are just the result of a cosmic composting experiment..@hippyjoe1955

@hippyjoe1955 The basic principles of mechanics are common to cars, but there are differences in the underlying mechanics. For example, while still considered and internal combustion engine, a diesel works on a slightly different mechanical principle.

@whowasthatmaskedman Evolution happens how without origination?

@Bushranger Were cars designed or did they blindly evolve?

@hippyjoe1955 You are a teacher?? THAT is HORRIFYING!!!!

Easy.. It doesn't. Your logic is circular. God isn't part of evolution. Therefore God must have been the origin? Why??@hippyjoe1955

@Fernie I used to teach and won accolades for my teaching. I used to teach at university. How about you?

@whowasthatmaskedman No more circular than any other theory on origination. Evolution has far more holes in it than any other theory.

@hippyjoe1955 I've known lecturers who had the teaching ability of sloths and others who taught like tigers. Having been at the coalface does not prove skill.

@Bushranger Yes you are right. It is evident that you were not served well in your education. You can not use logic nor did you develops any study skills.

@hippyjoe1955 Well, I'm so glad that you are here to provide me with the education that I so obviously need. Please enlighten me.

@Bushranger Do some investigation and thinking on your own. I did and I stopped being an evolutionist. The theory doesn't hold water.

@hippyjoe1955 Is the abiogenesis the only aspect of the theory that provides the refutation?

@hippyjoe1955 [quote]Ask for causation and evolution fails completely[/quote]

So are you saying that Natural Selection is an insufficient evolutionary mechanism?