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I feel so paranoid about men.

If 1 in 3 men i thought was good but turned out bad, I feel all men were pretending, even good ones, they will also turn out bad . It's so scary.

Idk how taking time to get to know them helps when men are very good at pretending. I am not good at identifying 😞

In my past , my male friends i been with for 1-2 years, after cutting them off due to fights, their fake kindness or their apathy, i found out they were just around me to try to use me. I found out after 6 months- 1 year of cutting them off from my life. Even men I tried to date didn't treat me good.

F everything, let them turn out bad or good if i try dating again, I'm tired of worrying .
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IamBack · 31-35, M
I have the same worry about women you know? People are just weird nowadays
sahi81 · 22-25, F
@IamBack maybe bad women who wants only looks or money date men more since they don't have any emotional depth or preferences except looks and money . Good ones might be rather picky so they come in life less or none.
IamBack · 31-35, M
@sahi81 that’s true, I think there’s just a lot of double standards in our world nowadays, like a woman expects a man to open the car door for her, be a good provider and tend to her needs, but God forbid that he asks her to cook a meal 🤷🏻‍♂

And one point I’d disagree with, good women aren’t picky, good women are smart with their choices, they don’t want an astronaut, they want a man to love them and they will love him back
sahi81 · 22-25, F
@IamBack There are women now a days, who expect a man to pay for them .like olden days lol.... They want olden rules in modern society. Personally if i have a job, i don't mind paying for myself on a date.
IamBack · 31-35, M
@sahi81 you’re missing the point my friend haha a man doesn’t want an equal, he doesn’t want someone to pay for herself, keep your money, and give me your love, that’s all there’s to it 😌
sahi81 · 22-25, F
@IamBack i too want someone to love mutually but that doesn't seem to exists in our world. Men only wanted dominance over me till now and treated me bad.
IamBack · 31-35, M
@sahi81 you’re mingling with the wrong crowd then 🤷🏻‍♂

Don’t think that having a dozen guy friends will help either, dedicate yourself to looking for this one guy only
sahi81 · 22-25, F
@IamBack in some cases when a man loses his job or don't have enough money to pay for dates, a women can be there for him if she can pay for herself. Nothing wrong if he wants to pay for everything though
IamBack · 31-35, M
@sahi81 that’s 100% valid, nothing wrong with her cooking him a meal and cleaning the house either without making him feel that she’s doing him a favor
sahi81 · 22-25, F
@IamBack depends on if she also does job or not
IamBack · 31-35, M
@sahi81 you see that right there is why more and more relationships are failing, I say, if a woman can’t balance between life outside the house or inside, she belongs inside and the man belongs outside

Of course it’s not black and white, there could be compromises
sahi81 · 22-25, F
@IamBack i think she can manage both... but what is wrong if he helps to make her house work load less and gets more time and energy to spend freetime togther.
sahi81 · 22-25, F
@IamBack if i have a job and doing outside works too ( like bringing groceries, going to bank, etc) , i would expect a man to clean and cook.
IamBack · 31-35, M
@sahi81 there’s absolutely nothing wrong with helping each other and trust me, that point right there is why you and a lot of other women will continue to be single by 2030 (statistics made my social scientists not me)

You have to understand that modern day toxic feminism that promotes the image of a self independent strong woman is as bad and destructive as old age misogyny 🤷🏻‍♂

You say a real man WOULD NEVER expect his woman to provide, but nowadays the average woman expects the man to cook and clean 🤷🏻‍♂
sahi81 · 22-25, F
@IamBack that's mean...

and how is feminsim destructive? Being overly- dependent on others is more destructive
sahi81 · 22-25, F
@IamBack i have heard men lose their jobs and wife leaving them.... i think feminist women are better, atleast they take a part-time job or any job to not break their relationships until the man finds job again
IamBack · 31-35, M
@sahi81 I’m sorry but that’s the harsh truth

Feminism might have benefited women back when women were oppressed but nowadays it’s destructive because it’s created a lot of double standards and you just subconsciously mentioned one of them

Where did I in my conversation say that I expect you to provide or bring in groceries? But you (along with a lot of women ruined by toxic feminism) expect the man to cook and clean, keyword here is “expect” but for example you also “expect” the man to fix things round the house and take your car to the mechanic

Feminism has absolved women of their gender roles but instilled those for men
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sahi81 · 22-25, F
@IamBack u r "expecting" women to leave their goals and everything to stay at home. Why???
sahi81 · 22-25, F
@IamBack It's not good for long term to make women overly dependent . If husband dies, they might not know how to survive.
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IamBack · 31-35, M
@sahi81 you’re right, not good to make them overly dependent nor overly independent for that matter
sahi81 · 22-25, F
@IamBack I want career and also a partner ( both ). I can't be happy or feel secure in life with having only one of those instead of both. I don't want to only focus on a career, career is just a need to not be dependent and also make money to have quality life ( where i live quality of life is bad and all dirty lol), i want to focus on career and relationships both. I study for have to job in future and also after that i watch courses, go to psychologists and read stuff about how to have healthy relationships and how to find good partner.

And also if my partner is busy outside taking car for repair, i won't expect him to help cook or clean if i am free at that time. I think men should be atleast be able to do their own things. I am saying it all depends on situation who will work at home more and outside more. Some stuff which are unsafe for women , only men can do, then they should do.

I think having expectations is not good ( men or women). We can't expect others to be like we want. I think learning to communicate needs and adjusting might help. Having similar values ( like loyalty, love for kids) and relationship goals ( providing quality life for kids, saving money, living in a safe area, etc) is more important .

I think overly-independent might lead to dark places as much as being overly-dependent.
IamBack · 31-35, M
@sahi81 I understand that in India it’s difficult 🥲 and trust me, I know this from experience, at some point you will have to choose between your career and your relationship, you can’t have both, that’s just how life is 🤷🏻‍♂
sahi81 · 22-25, F
@IamBack is it due to having to take care of kids/baby?
sahi81 · 22-25, F
@IamBack my mom have both... career and kids