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Disgustedman · 61-69, M
Well that's to let the people who want their children to read about gay sex and oral sex and maps and other perversions so they can this way the Christian family doesn't have to deal with that garbage.
Puppycat23 · F
@Disgustedman Many books that have been banned don't have themes of gay sex and oral sex and maps and other perversions.
Disgustedman · 61-69, M
@Puppycat23 yes I know that some others have words that they somewhat don't like or they don't have themes that they don't like.
It's not a one size fits all, but like I said if people don't want them in their public library they are free to buy them online and keep them in their own library
It's not a one size fits all, but like I said if people don't want them in their public library they are free to buy them online and keep them in their own library
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Disgustedman Maps? Is that an abbreviation, new to me, for something you dislike? Or is there something thought "wrong" in geography too?
You make clear some find certain subjects unpleasant, or in your view "garbage"(!), but knowing they exist, and trying to understand them, is not the same as liking, supporting, participating or using them. That includes sexual orientation - an aspect of one's individuality that no-one can help and no-one chooses, irrespective of any or no religious opinions that are a purely matter anyway.
The original question though was about a ban spreading across the USA, on any books deemed expressing ideas, knowledge or discussions not those of the censors, and apparently for largely political reasons. For a supposedly-free country that is a dangerous trend, irrespective of your personal views on what you believe is being suppressed.
I followed the link ElwoodBlues gives, about censoring mathematics education, and learnt one reason is the text-books showing the wrong political and social slants - though I would agree text-books should be not be slanted anyway.
Any text-book on straightforwardly factual topics like mathematics, history, geography, sexual education, comparative religions (i.e. about them), physics or foreign languages should be politically and socially neutral. That point was not even mentioned though. Rather it seems to me, with the benefit of an external, so neutral, foreign view, the Florida Question is not whether some maths books seem biased, but are they biased in the "correct" direction!
Regarding works of fiction - and this affects foreign authors too, not just American ones - I agree that literature for young children should be chosen with due care. It usually is, at home by discerning rather than narrow-minded parents, and publicly by experienced publishers, teachers and librarians.
However, finding a book not to one's taste or view, confers no right to withhold it from anyone else mature enough to read and judge it for him or herself; yet allegedly, Florida now allows even just one parent to do that to school libraries. Text-book or novel, at worst the book-banning crusade seems a political drive against knowledge, understanding, questioning and discussing; not merely a misguided wish to "protect" anyone - children and adults alike. I wonder what the Taliban, or the Kim dynasty (N. Korea), make of it all?
It may anyway be somewhat self-defeating, tempting the more broad-minded to buy the work just out of "forbidden-fruit" curiosity or kudos!
Similarly, finding some social matter difficult or unpleasant personally is not a reason to suppress understanding it; let alone use it to foment intolerance of people guilty of merely failing to fit in some artificially "approved" category.
You make clear some find certain subjects unpleasant, or in your view "garbage"(!), but knowing they exist, and trying to understand them, is not the same as liking, supporting, participating or using them. That includes sexual orientation - an aspect of one's individuality that no-one can help and no-one chooses, irrespective of any or no religious opinions that are a purely matter anyway.
The original question though was about a ban spreading across the USA, on any books deemed expressing ideas, knowledge or discussions not those of the censors, and apparently for largely political reasons. For a supposedly-free country that is a dangerous trend, irrespective of your personal views on what you believe is being suppressed.
I followed the link ElwoodBlues gives, about censoring mathematics education, and learnt one reason is the text-books showing the wrong political and social slants - though I would agree text-books should be not be slanted anyway.
Any text-book on straightforwardly factual topics like mathematics, history, geography, sexual education, comparative religions (i.e. about them), physics or foreign languages should be politically and socially neutral. That point was not even mentioned though. Rather it seems to me, with the benefit of an external, so neutral, foreign view, the Florida Question is not whether some maths books seem biased, but are they biased in the "correct" direction!
Regarding works of fiction - and this affects foreign authors too, not just American ones - I agree that literature for young children should be chosen with due care. It usually is, at home by discerning rather than narrow-minded parents, and publicly by experienced publishers, teachers and librarians.
However, finding a book not to one's taste or view, confers no right to withhold it from anyone else mature enough to read and judge it for him or herself; yet allegedly, Florida now allows even just one parent to do that to school libraries. Text-book or novel, at worst the book-banning crusade seems a political drive against knowledge, understanding, questioning and discussing; not merely a misguided wish to "protect" anyone - children and adults alike. I wonder what the Taliban, or the Kim dynasty (N. Korea), make of it all?
It may anyway be somewhat self-defeating, tempting the more broad-minded to buy the work just out of "forbidden-fruit" curiosity or kudos!
Similarly, finding some social matter difficult or unpleasant personally is not a reason to suppress understanding it; let alone use it to foment intolerance of people guilty of merely failing to fit in some artificially "approved" category.
Disgustedman · 61-69, M
@ArishMell TL:DR
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Disgustedman TL:DR. Sorry, I don't know what they stand for.
Disgustedman · 61-69, M
@ArishMell Google is your friend
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Disgustedman Not sure about it being anyone's "friend"! :-)
Basically I was just explaining why I think the book bans totally wrong and dangerous, probably politically-driven.
Basically I was just explaining why I think the book bans totally wrong and dangerous, probably politically-driven.
Renaci · 36-40
@Disgustedman The "christian family" is already full of MAPS. They don't want children reading about pedos cause they want them to fall victim to church sex abuse easier.
"You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye." - Matt 7:5
"You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye." - Matt 7:5