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I thought Zelensky was gobsmacked by the treatment he got , he was ambushed.
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ElwoodBlues · M
Marco Rubio says:
tRump: May 2023:
“They’re dying, Russians and Ukrainians. I want them to stop dying. And I’ll have that done — I’ll have that done in 24 hours.”
FAIL
You're not going to bring [the Russians] to the table if you're calling them names, if you're being antagonistic.
Funny thing - that's EXACTLY how tRump tried to bring Zelenskyy to the tabletRump: May 2023:
“They’re dying, Russians and Ukrainians. I want them to stop dying. And I’ll have that done — I’ll have that done in 24 hours.”
FAIL
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ElwoodBlues · M
@MarmeeMarch 24 hours from when Tяump started working on his appeasement plan. You could start the clock anywhere from Tяump's Feb 12 phone call on Ukraine with Putin thru Tяump's disastrous Feb 28 Oval Office meeting with Zelenskyy where Tяump's demand for Zelenskyy's signature was rejected.
Whether you call it four weeks and counting or two weeks and counting, Tяump's appeasement plan badly missed his 24 hour prediction!
Whether you call it four weeks and counting or two weeks and counting, Tяump's appeasement plan badly missed his 24 hour prediction!
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ElwoodBlues · M
@MarmeeMarch says
He has to be responsible for the actions of everybody ?
I agree, it's a stooopit promise to make.Outside of handing out bags of money to Zelenskyy
Nope. Bags of weapons and ammo.do you honestly think that's even possible.
I agree, it's a stooopit promise to make.that was fueled by "the west"
Nope. That was entailed by a three-way treaty known as the 1994 Budapest Memorandum. C'mon dude, I've explained the treaty to you before. Do I really need to do so again??
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ElwoodBlues · M
@MarmeeMarch asks
WRONG!!
There's nothing in the treaty about "feelings."
The UN Charter Article 51 determines the conditions under which a peace treaty is considered violated and the right of self-defence may be invoked.
Do I have to tell you that the 1994 Budapest Memorandum is not valid if Russia feels threatened ?
WRONG!!
There's nothing in the treaty about "feelings."
The UN Charter Article 51 determines the conditions under which a peace treaty is considered violated and the right of self-defence may be invoked.
He has to be responsible for the actions of everybody ?
I agree, it's a stooopit promise to make.Outside of handing out bags of money to Zelenskyy
Nope. Bags of weapons and ammo.do you honestly think that's even possible.
I agree, it's a stooopit promise to make.
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ElwoodBlues · M
@MarmeeMarch <SIGH>
A brief description of the three-way treaty known as the 1994 Budapest Memorandum.
Essentially, Ukraine agreed to give up all its nuclear weapons to Russia in exchange for safety from a U.S. or Russian invasion. Russia's invasion of Ukraine violates that treaty. And as a signatory to that 1994 Budapest Memorandum, the U.S. has a definite interest in righting Putin's current wrongs.
Russia promised specifically NOT to invade Ukraine, and the U.S. promised specifically to ASSIST Ukraine if the treaty were ever violated. And that's what the West has been doing.
A brief description of the three-way treaty known as the 1994 Budapest Memorandum.
Essentially, Ukraine agreed to give up all its nuclear weapons to Russia in exchange for safety from a U.S. or Russian invasion. Russia's invasion of Ukraine violates that treaty. And as a signatory to that 1994 Budapest Memorandum, the U.S. has a definite interest in righting Putin's current wrongs.
In the final version of the deal, Russia promised not to attack Ukraine. While the U.S. and the U.K. assured Ukraine they would aid if it was attacked by Russia, that promised aid did not guarantee military support like a NATO country would receive.
In 2009, Russia and the U.S. announced that the assurances in the Budapest Memorandum would continue to remain in effect in the future.
https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/global-conflicts/ukraine-agreed-to-give-up-nukes-in-exchange-for-safety-from-russia-invasion-attack-budapest-memorandum-treaty/536-8748a51f-10ee-47f0-be30-b4088750ee44In 2009, Russia and the U.S. announced that the assurances in the Budapest Memorandum would continue to remain in effect in the future.
Russia promised specifically NOT to invade Ukraine, and the U.S. promised specifically to ASSIST Ukraine if the treaty were ever violated. And that's what the West has been doing.
He has to be responsible for the actions of everybody ?
I agree, it's a stooopit promise to make.Outside of handing out bags of money to Zelenskyy
Nope. Bags of weapons and ammo.do you honestly think that's even possible.
I agree, it's a stooopit promise to make.
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