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putin and his western admirers

Can those toeing the kremlin party line here be any more obvious?
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wonkywinky · 51-55, M
I cant do with those "Well its NATOs fault" types.The types that assume west is bad east is good.
No-one started this war other than Putin/Russia.
Yes we all know there may have been other outstanding issues in Ukraine-but it was Russia that invadec Ukraine not the other way around.
ididntknow · 51-55, M
@wonkywinky you should look at the history,
tindrummer · M
@ididntknow I've been reading russian history for half a century - neither Ukraine nor NATO are at fault regarding p's special military operation
ididntknow · 51-55, M
@tindrummer who is at fault, I imagine you have some invaluable information on the subject
tindrummer · M
@ididntknow who crossed whose border unprovoked?

cue the kremlin party line
ididntknow · 51-55, M
@tindrummer who said it was unprovoked
ididntknow · 51-55, M
@tindrummer Minsk agreement one and two, ?
tindrummer · M
@ididntknow me, among many others
ididntknow · 51-55, M
@tindrummer ok, so it’s your opinion not a fact
tindrummer · M
@ididntknow yep, just like yours is yours
fact - putin invaded Ukraine and started the war
opinion - you think he was justified: I don't
ididntknow · 51-55, M
@tindrummer what would’ve happened to Russia if it hadn’t invaded Ukraine, considering NATO and EU were getting ever closer, what would you say the intentions of America and the EU are, what would you say their end game is, and would Russia be allowed to survive in its present form, Consider if America was in Russias shoes, and how would America react ?