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Joe Biden has covid!

Terrible news for Joe. Given that in the UK 91% of covid deaths are among the fully vaxed I hope that Joe is able to get proper treatment and has a speedy recovery. So about those vaxes. If they work so well why aren't they working so well?
carpediem · 61-69, M
Biden:

July 2021 "You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations." Also "The only pandemic we have is among the unvaccinated."

August 2021 "the pandemic of the unvaccinated is a tragedy that is preventable."

September 2021 to unvaccinated Americans and said, "We’ve been patient, but our patience is wearing thin. And your refusal has cost all of us."

October 2021 Biden claimed that vaccinated workers "are protected from COVID and cannot spread it to you."

November 2021 get their children vaccinated to "stop the spread" and "help us beat this pandemic."

Fauci:

August 2021 "vaccines prevent getting infected, prevent getting sick, prevent your hospitalization,"


It's a pandemic of the unvaccinated...!
Iwillwait · M
@carpediem They are all profiting from your expiremental participation. Which the whole planet has funded from their citizens under the guise of Bills that we're presented to us as aid.
carpediem · 61-69, M
@Iwillwait MY "experimental participation"? What you talking about Willis?
@hippyjoe1955 makes another dubious claim:
Given that in the UK 91% of covid deaths are among the fully vaxed
Funny thing - when I tried to substantiate your claim, I found that JUST THE OPPOSITE is true!!

Monthly age-standardised mortality rates (ASMRs) for deaths involving coronavirus (COVID-19) have been consistently lower for all months since September 2021 for people who had received a third dose or booster at least 21 days ago, compared with unvaccinated people and those with just a first or second dose.

Breaking the ASMRs down by age group, those aged over 50 years who had received a booster at least 21 days ago had lower ASMRs in all months, compared with unvaccinated people; this has also been the case among younger age groups where rates can be calculated, although trends are now less clear because of lower mortality rates with large confidence intervals.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsinvolvingcovid19byvaccinationstatusengland/deathsoccurringbetween1january2021and31march2022

Maybe that's why you failed to provide any evidence to substantiate your outlandish claim, LOL!!!



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I followed your links thru to ONS and the data there proves your rootforamerica.com blog page is DEAD WRONG.

This page: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19/latestinsights has this graph

Source: https://www.ons.gov.uk/chartimage?uri=/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19/latestinsights/79d7f50b
(ook for
Number of deaths registered by week, Great Britain, week ending 13 March 2020 to week ending 8 July 2022

Notice how most of the covid related deaths in the UK came in the two big early spikes peaking in April 2020 and Jan 2021?
Vaccines were NOT AVAILABLE in the UK to the general public during those spikes.

Let me repeat that - the ONS data says most of the UK Covid deaths occurred BEFORE vaccines became available.
Jun 17, 2021 — The health service in England will open up COVID-19 vaccinations to everyone aged over 18 on Friday, a big step towards the government's ...

Dude, your precious source rootforamerica.com appears to have INVERTED the vaccinated vs unvaccinated death totals, based on the data available at ONS.com.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@ElwoodBlues All you have shown me is you can't face reality. Have a nice foreshortened life. Not wishing you any ill but the facts are the vaxes you promote are designed to kill unsuspecting people like you. Go make your peace. You soon will be reported as a "unexpected unknown death" statistic.
@hippyjoe1955 ONS data supports the OPPOSITE of your claim. Evolution has a way of killing off idiots like yourself.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@ElwoodBlues Have a nice foreshortened life.
@hippyjoe1955 says
The all cause death rate is up significantly since the introduction of the vax.

Could be. Problem is, the all cause death rate doesn't distinguish between the vaxxed and the anti-vaxxers. What do we find when we compare these two categories? Read on and find out!!!

Executive Summary:
In 2021, the 75% of Americans fully vaccinated produced under 20% of the Covid deaths, while the 25% unvaccinated Americans produced over 80% of the Covid deaths.

In 2021, the 75% of Americans fully vaccinated produced under 31% of Covid cases; while the 25% unvaccinated Americans produced nearly 70% of Covid cases.

This means the US unvaccinated had a 5X higher chance of contracting Covid compared to the vaccinated per capita, and that overall the unvaccinated had about a 15X higher probability of Covid death per capita.

Note: since 'Long Covid' occurs in 15% to 25% of Covid cases, that means there is also a 5X higher prevalence of Long Covid per capita among the unvaccinated.

Details
Source https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7104e2.htm
is a CDC analysis of 25 geographically dispersed US jurisdictions. It presents statistics on Covid incidence and death rates broken up by "wave" (dates) and age, separately for vaccinated and unvaccinated. Most of the key data is in TABLE 1.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7104e2.htm

Discussion
Note that the period is Apr-Dec 2021; why? In the first quarter of 2021 we were busily vaccinating the 65+ cohort; the most vulnerable. There was an excess of unvaccinated deaths in that period and not enough vaccinated people to make a fair comparison. Including that timeperiod would skew the data to make vaccines look even better than they are.

Note that the total deaths add up to 117,207, while the total 2021 US Covid death toll was about 550,000. That is because this data is for 25 representative jurisdictions, not the whole nation. This data represents over a quarter of US deaths, so percentages from it are statistically representative of the overall US Covid situation.

Vaccine effectiveness (VE) declined from the pre-delta to the delta to the omicron waves, but vaccines still provided significant protection.
The age-standardized IRR for cases in unvaccinated versus fully vaccinated persons was 13.9 during April–May and progressively declined to 8.7 during June, 5.1 during July–November, and 3.1 during December, coinciding with the periods of Delta emergence, Delta predominance, and Omicron emergence, respectively. This decline suggests a change in crude VE for infection from 93% during April–May, to 89% during June, 80% during July–November, and to 68% during December. Age-standardized IRRs for deaths among unvaccinated versus fully vaccinated persons were relatively stable; crude VE for deaths was 95% during April–May, 94% during June, and 94% during July–November.

Booster doses were highly effective.
During October–November, age-standardized IRRs for deaths among unvaccinated persons were 53.2 compared with those in fully vaccinated persons with a booster dose and 12.7 compared with persons without a booster dose; these results represented crude VE against death of 98% and 92%, respectively.

Incidence rate ratios
IRRs were calculated by dividing incidence among unvaccinated persons by incidence among fully vaccinated persons (overall and by receipt of booster doses); after detrending the underlying linear changes in incidence
@hippyjoe1955 More bluffing, <yawn>
Show us the data. Oh wait, you have no data, just empty bluffs, LOL!!!
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@ElwoodBlues Still stuck on stupid? Wow. If you want to know the truth you need to broaden your reading. Don't rely on the government and its pet science to inform you. It is not on your side. It is not your friend. It does not have your best interests at heart. If you get jabbed and die it doesn't care. If you don't get jabbed and die it doesn't care. It is not there to prevent the spread of a disease. It is there for power and power alone. If it can force you to comply it will. That you comply is your problem not theirs.
@hippyjoe1955 More bluffing ... <yawn>
Show us the data. Oh wait, you have no data, just empty bluffs, LOL!!!
@hippyjoe1955 says
Here is a clue. The all cause death rate is stable for years. It moves up or down slightly but the rate is basically the same.
FALSE!! In the US, the all cause death rate JUMPED nearly 20% in 2020, when Covid arrived.

The vaxes are introduced and almost immediately the death rate jumps 40%.
Data? Links?? Evidence??? Of course not!!!

We know it wasn't covid since the death rate didn't increase from the time of the outbreak
DEAD WRONG, as the data below demonstrates. Recall that vaccines in the US only became available on a small scale in Dec 2020.

Here in the table are US death numbers for the top ten causes of death for six years ending in 2020. Notice how there are nearly 20% more deaths in 2020 than the average of the previous five years? Doing the math, that's 500,000 excess deaths in 2020.

Notice how, in 2020, 345,000 of those 500,000 excess deaths are classified as Covid? Notice how almost all causes of death rose in 2020, including cancer & heart disease?
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2778234

BTW, if there's any validity to the claim that lots of deaths have been mis-classified as Covid, why did almost all causes of death increase in 2020? Wouldn't mis-classification produce a reduction in those other causes? The evidence says mis-classification is a red herring, and Covid increased the death rate nearly 20% in the US in 2020.
@hippyjoe1955 You are still bluffing ...
Or is that an attempt at distraction ... <yawn>
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@ElwoodBlues Keep telling yourself that. That will solve all your problems. Well except your very much shortened life. That problem will not go away. You have been jabbed too many times.
@hippyjoe1955 Keep bluffing ... <yawn>
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
With his energy levels it’s hard to tell the difference. Lol
Iwillwait · M
@AthrillatheHunt They have him pumped so full of stuff there's no way he'll show fatigue. Plus the virusof today is a cold with flu like symptoms.
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@Iwillwait he’s on the same brain elixir as Orange took while president
Iwillwait · M
@AthrillatheHunt Well then we know he'll be just fine.
Majorsite · 61-69, M
It was almost one year ago to the day when demented Joe lied to Americans, Saying the vaccinated won't get covid !
Iwillwait · M
That stat is due to the mass push for everyone to take something that was not effective to begin with.

At what point does the planet say "No"!?"
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Iwillwait One can only hope soon. I feel sorry for the ones who got vaxed against their better judgement to keep their jobs. My oldest son got myocarditis from the jab. My younger son got adenopathy from the jab and my oldest daughter has neuropathy from the jab. Then are the three I know that were killed by the jab.....
Good. I'm a senior working with covid -. Maskless rednecks everywhere!
Let us all be sicker so we can open up yer Conomy, cons! Deaths are good.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Roundandroundwego The fact is that the vax is not a vaccine. It is a scam. Never tested never shown to be safe or effective and pushed like mad to fight a cold. Does that even make sense to you?
@hippyjoe1955 okay. I don't care whether anyone makes sense. That's not how Murka kills the ecosystem. Maskless rednecks don't gotta make no sense, they're poning you.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Roundandroundwego Why are you such a bigot? Serious question.
Is ha true about the 91% covid deaths?
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@akapol1955 And the vax is effective how?
@hippyjoe1955
HI, Joe -- kidding aside, they didn't say that nobody who's vaccinated would get COVID, but that it reduced the chances. The notes I've seen just briefly looking say that the vaccines are 94% effective.
And from a personal standpoint, I'm double vaccinated and double-boosted, and still test negative. I guess it's all about just being a little cautious, And having my wife tell me to wash my hands every time I come in from the outside. :D
Hope you're having a good day.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@akapol1955 Yeah all my vaxed and boosted friends have had covid multiple times. I had delta back in Oct. It was so mild I never missed a days work. On the other hand my brother in law died from the jab as did my neighbor and a fellow I knew from church.

 
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