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So what do MAGA and other right wingers really like about Viktor Orban?

So I’ve been hearing and reading a bit about Orban lately, and I guess I get why MAGA loves him. They love him because he’s made Hungary mostly white and he’s making laws that allow traditionalist Christianity to dominate. An article on Slate made the analogy that Hungary is to MAGA what Scandinavia is to the American Left.

But does Orban have any selling points to people who aren’t MAGA and crazy? People that don’t especially want white Christian nationalists to dominate everything? What else do y’all love about Orban? Is it the widespread corruption? Or the poverty?

I mean as a liberal I’d like to live in Scandinavia not because it’s the opposite of Hungary, it’s not. It’s not especially ethnically or religiously diverse. What I dig about Scandinavia is stuff that should appeal to most everyone. First and foremost, they dominate the Happiness Index. Who doesn’t want to be happy? I guess unless you’re more focused on making people who are different from you unhappy. They’ve got excellent, cost-efficient healthcare, the best education (and no homework), they’re wealthy countries with hardly any poverty or homelessness.

I just read an article in the Telegraph by an Orban supporter, and it was kinda like this:

[Viktor Orban will be back in power, because what the chattering liberals don’t get is that he’s successful. Their argument boils down to, “Orban’s only great because his staff and his opposition and the media and everyone is trying to make him look great.” Yeah right. He was really young when he got elected to be Hungary’s leader, and he’s the only guy to get elected in Hungary four times since the Nineteenth Century. That makes him the GOAT!]

I’m like, okay…so he’s great because he got elected? Never mind that he’s an authoritarian and the elections were heavily rigged in his favor.

All of that to say, why should the average American want to see Orban’s policies implemented in the US?
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BohoBabe · M
The same way Benito Mussolini started the first fascist movement that would spread to other countries, influencing movements like Nazism and Kokkashugi, Viktor Orban started the current fascist movement which led to MAGA. Orban suppressed freedom of speech through the economic bullying and consolidation of media, which is exactly what Putin and Trump did in their countries. Orban's Fascism has always been the blueprint. That's why his defeat is such a good sign.
Theyitis · 36-40, M
@BohoBabe Well thanks for being willing to start some discussion, but yeah I was already more or less aware of the Trump/Orban/Putin alliance. And I do share your sentiment of happiness to see him defeated in the most recent election.

I guess what really inspired me to make this post, though, was my amusement at that article in the Telegraph that’s all like, “Yeah, Orban’s coming back. Because you see, what those stupid, chattering liberals don’t get is that Orban is successful. I mean he got elected four times, including once when he was only 34. That makes him the GOAT!”

So now I feel kind of teased. I want somebody to do what the writer for the Telegraph kinda faked like he was going to do but then didn’t do it. I want someone to try to sell me on Orban. Tell me why most reasonable Americans, Americans who are not crazy hardcore MAGA, should want the US to adopt the kinds of policies that Orban has implemented in Hungary.

Can you play the role of Orban salesman for me?
BohoBabe · M
@Theyitis
Tell me why most reasonable Americans, Americans who are not crazy hardcore MAGA, should want the US to adopt the kinds of policies that Orban has implemented in Hungary

I'm pretty sure the only Americans who want those policies are MAGA or some other kind of Fascist.
Theyitis · 36-40, M
@BohoBabe I mean Hungary is the most corrupt, least transparent, poorest country in Europe. There’s got to be some argument why Orban’s a successful leader. And it’s got to be something better than, “well he got elected!”
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