Trump gives a normal speech to Congress and then goes bat****crazy on Twitter. And he's the Prez?

You are incorrect. I say this respectfully. No President can order wiretaps, though I am sure some have discussed it, or may have wanted them.

As for history, this has been the case for some years now.

In this present case, the Obama Admin had a hands off relationship with Justice Dept investigations.

By the way, if there was a wiretap at Trump Tower, that does mean a federal judge found probable cause of CRIME, and probable cause means likely indictable.

Therefore if there were wiretaps, Trump is in deep doodoo.

@GJOFJ3: [quote]Presidents can order wiretaps and bugs and presidents of both parties have.[/quote]

No. The President is part of the executive branch, and the executive branch, is NOT the judicial branch. These protections were put in place, to protect us from people like President Trump.

Perhaps you can share the names of Presidents who ordered wire taps?

Just because Breitbart, prompted be Levin, prompted by Limbaugh, prompted by infowars, says it's true, it hardly ever means it actually is.

@Northwest: correction.....

I think you mean BreitbarF.

You should research this. I'll help you get started. Pres Lyndon Johnson had Dr King wiretapped over a long period of time. It isn't right but it has been done many times

@GJOFJ3: let me help you a little bit here.

1. Lyndon Johnson was president 50 years ago.

2. Edgar Hoover is the one who, illegally spied on MLK.

@Northwest: if the FBI did indeed wiretap Trump Tower, it is not Obama who should worry.

Obama has said neither he nor his White House had asked for the recordings.

Your point about Presidents being authorized to demand wiretaps may be correct. Today there are opinions and conclusions supporting either side all over the news. Lol. If I was incorrect earlier, I apologize.

Did Johnson and Hoover collide re King wiretaps?
I believe Bobby Kennedy felt that Hoover had the Kennedy's phones tapped too.

The point re Trump is if there were wiretaps, they existed (unless illegally) with the grant of a FISA court warrant. In order to obtain that warrant, a judge would have had to be shown solid evidence that there was collision between Trumps team and Russia's.

Warrants are not given out easily. There must be credible evidence to indicate a CRIME is occurring.

Not merely rumour. If rumour were the case, no warrant would be granted.

FISA is a particularly harder warrant to obtain against a private citizen as Trump obviously was while running for office. Therefore the bar would have been much higher to traverse in the FISA Court to have that warrant granted. The USA takes wiretapping private citizens very seriously. FISA would only grant such a warrant where there is credible evidence a suspect is colluding with a foreign government. .

Should such a warrant have been granted, the FBI, or the Justice Dept would have had to disclose pretty solid evidence that they needed to prove by wiretap that which was becoming evident through investigation.

Not an easy warrant to get.
The fact they got it (if they did) is trouble for Trump.

@CassandraFemale17: The FBI does not discuss with the President open investigations, and the same applies to the President. The press is now reporting that the FBI Directory, Comey, wants the Justice department to deny the President's claims, but seeing that Sessions has recused himself, the top officials are Trump employees, and are not responding to Comey's request.

The President may "request" an investigation, but President Obama's office said that he did not. The President CANNOT order a wiretap. This is a matter for the JUDICIAL branch of the government.

If indeed someone was spying on Trump, they would need a FISA court order, and as you noted, it's not possible to get that, without showing credible data.

If they did it without a court order, then of course it would be illegal, and must be prosecuted.

Johnson never colluded with Hoover. Hoover had dirt on Johnson, related to his extramarital life. Hoover also had evidence, photos, recordings, etc. on the Kennedy Brothers' extramarital affairs. Hoover had dirt on everyone, and the bulk of it was illegally obtained. It was not until after he died, that the FBI was made to comply with the laws of the land.