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ElwoodBlues · M
@pdockal says
I tried to comprehend your words. You appear to be saying that Clinton, with the 1996 IIRIRA, ended due process for immigrants. I provided specific information to show that that limitation only applied to
individuals apprehended shortly after crossing the border without inspection or those arriving at ports of entry with fraudulent or missing documents.
And I pointed out that it specifically does NOT apply to people who were previously admitted under Temporary Protected Status who later had their TPS cancelled by tRump. Most of the "illegals" that tRump has been ranting about were made illegal by a stroke of tRump's sharpie. They entered LEGALLY. The IIRIRA limits don't apply to them.
And I pointed out that nothing in the IIRIRA enabled ICE to grab people out of courthouses while the people were attending immigration hearings. tRump's DoJ eventually admitted "error" there, but a lot of damage was done. And nothing in the IIRIRA enabled ICE to suppress info about where prisoners were held (habeas corpus). And nothing in the IIRIRA enabled ICE to ignore court orders (96 violated court orders in Minn in one month; links upon request). My statements here are all true; you've admitted you have no counter-argument.
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I tried to comprehend your words. You appear to be saying that Clinton, with the 1996 IIRIRA, ended due process for immigrants. I provided specific information to show that that limitation only applied to
individuals apprehended shortly after crossing the border without inspection or those arriving at ports of entry with fraudulent or missing documents.
And I pointed out that it specifically does NOT apply to people who were previously admitted under Temporary Protected Status who later had their TPS cancelled by tRump. Most of the "illegals" that tRump has been ranting about were made illegal by a stroke of tRump's sharpie. They entered LEGALLY. The IIRIRA limits don't apply to them.
And I pointed out that nothing in the IIRIRA enabled ICE to grab people out of courthouses while the people were attending immigration hearings. tRump's DoJ eventually admitted "error" there, but a lot of damage was done. And nothing in the IIRIRA enabled ICE to suppress info about where prisoners were held (habeas corpus). And nothing in the IIRIRA enabled ICE to ignore court orders (96 violated court orders in Minn in one month; links upon request). My statements here are all true; you've admitted you have no counter-argument.
pdockal · 56-60, M
@ElwoodBlues
PresidentBill Clinton signed theIllegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act (IIRIRA)in 1996, which officially established the "expedited removal" process used for rapid deportations.
It authorized immigration officers to summarily deport certain noncitizens without a hearing before an immigration judge if they lacked valid documents or committed fraud.
The act largely stripped federal courts of the power to review these fast-track deportation orders, making them final and nearly impossible to appeal.
redefined "aggravated felonies" to include minor, nonviolent offenses, making even legal permanent residents (green card holders) subject to automatic and often retroactive deportation
It introduced the "3- and 10-year bars," which mandate that undocumented immigrants who leave the U.S. after staying illegally for certain periods are prohibited from returning for years.
PresidentBill Clinton signed theIllegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act (IIRIRA)in 1996, which officially established the "expedited removal" process used for rapid deportations.
It authorized immigration officers to summarily deport certain noncitizens without a hearing before an immigration judge if they lacked valid documents or committed fraud.
The act largely stripped federal courts of the power to review these fast-track deportation orders, making them final and nearly impossible to appeal.
redefined "aggravated felonies" to include minor, nonviolent offenses, making even legal permanent residents (green card holders) subject to automatic and often retroactive deportation
It introduced the "3- and 10-year bars," which mandate that undocumented immigrants who leave the U.S. after staying illegally for certain periods are prohibited from returning for years.
pdockal · 56-60, M
@ElwoodBlues
While Clinton signed these measures as part of a "tough on crime" and "tough on immigration" platform, they remain asubject of significant controversydue to their impact on due process and family separation
For more details, you can review theIIRIRA summaryat Cornell Law School or theAmerican Immigration Council's fact sheeton expedited removal
While Clinton signed these measures as part of a "tough on crime" and "tough on immigration" platform, they remain asubject of significant controversydue to their impact on due process and family separation
For more details, you can review theIIRIRA summaryat Cornell Law School or theAmerican Immigration Council's fact sheeton expedited removal
ElwoodBlues · M
@pdockal @pdockal As you say,
Which raises the question, which noncitizens??
And I provided the answer above. IIRIRA applies to
individuals apprehended shortly after crossing the border without inspection or those arriving at ports of entry with fraudulent or missing documents.
And IIRIRA specifically does NOT apply to people who were previously admitted under Temporary Protected Status who later had their TPS cancelled by tRump. Most of the "illegals" that as tRump has been ranting about were made illegal by a stroke of tRump's sharpie. They entered LEGALLY. The IIRIRA limits don't apply to them.
And, as I pointed out above, there are plenty more cases of ICE violating due process & habeas corpus that have nothing to do with IIRIRA.
to summarily deport certain noncitizens without a hearing
Notice that? not all noncitizens, only certain ones.Which raises the question, which noncitizens??
And I provided the answer above. IIRIRA applies to
individuals apprehended shortly after crossing the border without inspection or those arriving at ports of entry with fraudulent or missing documents.
And IIRIRA specifically does NOT apply to people who were previously admitted under Temporary Protected Status who later had their TPS cancelled by tRump. Most of the "illegals" that as tRump has been ranting about were made illegal by a stroke of tRump's sharpie. They entered LEGALLY. The IIRIRA limits don't apply to them.
And, as I pointed out above, there are plenty more cases of ICE violating due process & habeas corpus that have nothing to do with IIRIRA.
Try to comprehend my words