I Think Donald John Trump, Is A Moron

"Most of us didn't even vote for him." To make that statement true, you have to consider all the people who voted against him, but also the people who DID NOT VOTE. Voting turn out in the US is so bad, no President ever has won the majority of eligible voters.

Secondly, who cares about the "popular vote?" That's not how you win the game, and everyone knows the rules before they play.

@Ax17x7: First: "Everyone knows the rules before they play." You either have never been to America or you are delusional. Very few people know how it works. Don't get me wrong, the information is available, people just choose not to learn about it.

Second: "To make that statement true, you have to consider all the people who voted against him, but also the people who DID NOT VOTE." False. You only have to consider the people who voted against him. He lost the popular vote.

Third: "who cares about the 'popular vote?'" Literally everyone who votes. The popular vote represents the will of the people of the nation. When someone who loses the popular vote becomes president, that signifies that the government doesn't give a shit what the people want. Which is old news, of course.

@Madhatter: Trump and Clinton and all political parties know HOW to become President. Bitching about the popular vote when you lose the Electoral College doesn't change anything.

Ignorance of the electoral process is not an effective argument against the Electoral College. It's your civic responsibility to know how your democracy works.

@Ax17x7: Yes, freedom of speech and expressing displeasure has never helped a cause. Ever. In history. Except literally every time.

I agree. It is the civic duty of all citizens to keep informed about politics. Not once did I use that as an argument against the electoral college. I feel I shouldn't have to argue against the electoral college. A simple explanation of what it is should be enough. "The electoral is when you vote and then they ignore your vote and pick what they want anyway. Sometimes it lines up with what the nation wants and sometimes it doesn't, rendering the entire process of voting pointless." Which is in large part why the voter turnout in America is so poor in comparison to other countries. Because even if people don't understand politics or how the electoral college works, they do understand that their vote doesn't count, so there's no reason to do it.

@Madhatter: "You either have never been to America or you are delusional. Very few people know how it works. Don't get me wrong, the information is available, people just choose not to learn about it." Well... whatever your point there was....ignorance is no excuse.

As far as the popular vote goes...fine tell everyone the popular results, make it known that there is a problem with the system, the people have the right to know. However, the popular vote is not how you win the election in the United States. Everyone who runs for President knows that. Trump isn't going to step down because he lost the popular vote.

Realistically, if you start with Washington DC and Wyoming at 3 Electoral votes and win every state counting up, you need less than 25% of the popular vote, to win the Electoral College. Is this a problem? Probably. But like I said, everyone running for President is aware of this and it is a legitimate strategy that any party could attempt.

@Ax17x7: "You either have never been to America or you are delusional. Very few people know how it works. Don't get me wrong, the information is available, people just choose not to learn about it." Was a response to your "Everyone knows the rules before they play." Which immediately precedes it in my post. I was correcting your false statement. I later on said there was no excuse, but I will say it again. I am not making excuses, just stating facts.

"However, the popular vote is not how you win the election in the United States." That is the problem I'm speaking of.

"Everyone who runs for President knows that. Trump isn't going to step down because he lost the popular vote." No one asked him to. I apologized for my government appointing him as president. I never asked him to step down. I just acknowledged that it was a terrible decision that the people of America showed they did not want.

"Realistically, if you start with Washington DC and Wyoming at 3 Electoral votes and win every state counting up, you need less than 25% of the popular vote, to win the Electoral College. Is this a problem? Probably. But like I said, everyone running for President is aware of this and it is a legitimate strategy that any party could attempt." Correct. Again, that is the problem. Our government was supposed to be "of the people, by the people, and for the people." It has long since ceased to be that. You now must be a multi-millionaire to stand even the slightest chance of becoming president, you must adhere to one of two parties, regardless of whether or not they have America's best interests at heart, the voice of the people is ignored, and it is the people who suffer for all of it.

To reiterate, Trump is a terrible leader that the people of America did not want and did not vote for. Our government has failed at its intended purpose. The world will suffer because of it. Our electoral process needs revision to avoid this from happening in the future.

Trump's ~62.5 million votes to Clinton's ~64.5 is about a 2% difference in vote. Approximately 60 million registered voters did not vote. Hardly enough of a margin to say Trump is a leader "America did not want." Especially when you consider that nearly 1/3 of the voters effectively said they couldn't care either way.

No, 1/3 of the people didn't vote. That doesn't mean they didn't care. There were plenty of those, sure, but the majority would say "Why bother? My vote doesn't count." A 2% difference is still a difference. The majority of voters did not want Trump. If the vote is the will of the American people, then the American people did not want Trump. He lost. You keep focusing specifically on Trump. Yes, I don't like Trump, but my quarrel is with the system that made him president. If Clinton won that way, I would still be calling the system garbage and harmful to the people. Even before the elections ended I was saying the system is garbage and harmful to the people because it forces you to choose between two bad choices. It was garbage and broken when Obama went in office. It was garbage and broken when W. Bush was in office. It's a shit system and until President Trump takes my free speech away, I'm going to continue to say it until someone fixes it.

A no vote is not necessarily "Why bother? My vote doesn't count." If the 60 million people who had not voted, actually voted, its possible Clinton could have won.