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AbbeyRhode · F Best Comment
Well said, could not agree more. The criminals running this country need to be ousted, and replaced with people who work for the American people, the way it's supposed to be.
AbbeyRhode · F
Thank you for Best Answer.
lol it's so weird to encounter the Trump true believer. But i guess conmen like Trump wouldn't be successful if there weren't rubes to be conned...
Geo686 · 41-45, M
@Pikachu no it is not unassailable. It is just there is so much evidence out there for you to not look at it. There’s no point in even discussing it. you have dug your heels in and this is what you believe. Any evidence presented to the contrary, you will not listen to because you want to believe this. That’s your choice.
@Geo686 [quote]Trump and Biden rallies attendance doesn’t weigh[/quote]
No. It doesn't. Biden isn't popular; many people despise Trump. I voted against Biden in the primary; I vote against Trump in the general election.

[quote]The fact that so many professionals are calling for voter fraud[/quote] Who, other than totally biased people like Trump and Kari Lake? What "professionals?" Are you aware that Mark Meadows' publisher pulled his book off the shelves after he told investigators under oath that there was no voter fraud? What they say under oath tends to be very different from what they say to Tucker Carlson.

[quote] Twitter and Facebook both engaged in election interference[/quote] Private businesses can and do set rules for their social media platforms. They had rules against certain kinds of lies. Sorry that your side engages so heavily in lying. Personally, I would NEVER depend on Twitter or Facebook for factual reporting.

[quote]you’re probably going to laugh off Giuliani‘s testimony, right?[/quote] You got it!! Giuliani was found legally liable for defaming two Georgia election workers. Defamation is particularly difficult to prove. It means the court decided Giuliani [i]knowingly[/i] lied about those election workers. What else has he been lying about??

[quote] you are never gonna get me to believe[/quote] My goal is to stand up for the truth. Sorry if that upsets you.
@Geo686 Oh, lookee here! "True the Vote" (the source of the "mule" data in 2000 Mules) refuses to back up the claims it made, even under subpoena!! "True the Vote" has the opportunity to present its claims in court under oath and they're saying "no way jose!"

[quote]Jul 12, 2023
The Georgia State Election Board is suing True the Vote over the organization’s failure to comply with subpoenas that would back up its allegation of a ballot collection scheme highlighted in the movie “2000 Mules.”[/quote]
[b]https://thebrunswicknews.com/news/national_news/georgia-sues-true-the-vote-over-refusal-to-show-2000-mules-evidence/article_d57a97c0-56a6-5e02-9678-39dba369e4ea.html[/b]

Here's Mark Meadows denying his claims under oath:
[quote]... All Season Press, the independent publisher of Meadows' memoir, filed suit against the former White House chief of staff alleging he can't have both ways. In All Seasons' view, Meadows can't reportedly tell special counsel Jack Smith that he warned Trump against claiming the election was stolen only to write at length in his memoir that Trump really did win the 2020 presidential election.

"Meadows' reported statements to the Special Prosecutor and/or his staff [sic] and his reported grand jury testimony squarely contradict the statements in his Book, one central theme of which is that President Trump was the true winner of the 2020 Presidential Election and that election was 'stolen' and 'rigged' ...[/quote]
Gen. Flynn's comments about Globalism v Americanism are in alignment. We are getting to a point where people better decide which side of the fence they want to be on.

@BizSuitStacy Dumb dumb dumb lol
@NoGamesTolerated Amazingly so. And not dumb in the sense of a low IQ in this particular case, but extremely dumb in the sense of believing the state should be in full control of everyone's lives. How are where we live, how much money people should make, what would should and shouldn't eat.

It's like when Soros said they'd welcome the US into the New World Order, but its citizens would have to give up certain "privileges." And by "privileges" he really mean rights and property. One of the most chilling statements I've heard.

But globalists are massive pussies. They like watching others do their dirty work. They pay off some, but are extremely good at brainwashing the masses.
@BizSuitStacy I understood totally! Some of the most intelligent can be the blindest of all people.

Some people that even believe in globalization doesn’t see it as the Bible calls it … and do not believe the mark of the beast is coming nor the empire of the Antichrist… but hey.. truth marches on! 🙂
Some cons believe the Dems masterminded a plot to fake millions of ballots for thousands of jurisdictions, sneak them into hundreds of counting centers, evading tens of thousands of watchful eyes, and not slip up once. Also that the Dems forgot to cheat downballot and control the Senate overwhelmingly. Plus, these cons believe the Dems are not competent to run a lemonade stand. No, I can't explain their cognitive dissonance.
Geo686 · 41-45, M
https://rumble.com/v1uq0fi-mike-lindell-on-karis-stolen-election-they-are-caught.html
@Geo686 [b]!!! Bombshell !!![/b] Georgia uses paper ballots. Every single paper ballot was checked and hand counted, and Biden won Georgia. Oh, and the hand counts closely matched the machine counts.

[quote]In all, there were 126 counties within 10 votes of their original vote tally, according to the audit data. Of those counties, 54 counties matched their initial results exactly. No county had an error rate higher than 0.73% compared to their original results.[/quote]
[b]https://www.ajc.com/politics/breaking-georgia-manual-recount-confirms-biden-victory/B7LNNHYZOVGKZBUVAT7NZT3VZE/[/b]

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Mike Lindell created his own debunking when he set up the "Prove Mike Wrong Challenge," in which he offered $5 million to anyone who could prove that data he claimed shows China interfered in the 2020 presidential election were inaccurate.

[quote]Software engineer Robert Zeidman, who used his data analytics skills to debunk a false 2020 election conspiracy theory promoted by MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell, says he has received many congratulatory messages, including from supporters of former President Donald Trump.

"I've made the argument that Lindell is hurting Trump much more than he's helping him because everything Lindell is presenting is so obviously bogus that it just makes any talk about voter fraud or voter integrity look silly. So even big Trump supporters thanked me," Zeidman said in an interview with Morning Edition host Steve Inskeep.[/quote]

But wait, there's more!!
[quote]After Zeidman determined that the data provided during a three-day "Cyber Symposium" in Sioux Falls, S.D., had nothing to do with the 2020 election results, Lindell refused to pay the promised amount. Last week, an arbitration panel ruled in Zeidman's favor and ordered Lindell to pay up.

"[Mr. Zeidman] proved the data Lindell LLC provided [...] unequivocally did not reflect November 2020 election data," the arbitrators wrote. "Failure to pay Mr. Zeidman the $5 million prize was a breach of the contract, entitling him to recover."

Despite the ruling, Zeidman, who describes himself as a conservative Republican, does not expect to see any money.[/quote]



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@Geo686 You poor benighted sap. All your "evidence" for a stolen election has evaporated as the "witnesses" are sworn in to give testimony under oath!

Vote counting machines? They match hand counts.
Mike Lindell? Lost to his own "prove me wrong" thing.
Mark Meadows? Recanted under oath.
Sydney "Kracken" Powell? Recanted under oath.
Kenneth Chesebro? Recanted under oath.

And now you are reduced to defending your absurd beliefs by throwing childish insults. [b]SAD!!![/b]
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So we're agreed that "2000 Mules" is a pack of lies and the "True the Vote" folks are completely unable to substantiate their claims? Good. And we're agreed that the "experts" (Meadows, Powell, Chesebro) alleging voter fraud have denied such claims under oath? Very good. And we're agreed that no claims of "massive voter fraud" have stood up in any court of law? Excellent.

@Geo686 claims [quote]you know, Byte dance, a company controlled by the CCP, is head of the fact checkers on Facebook. [/quote]
You know, you haven't provided a single shred of evidence for that claim. Bytedance owns TikTok, a social media competitor of Facebook. No, Facebook doesn't farm out fact checking to its competitors, [b]LOL!!![/b]

[quote]Maybe I should go there for all this information.[/quote] I've already said "I would NEVER depend on Twitter or Facebook for factual reporting."

[quote]Make certain that everyone who votes has a drivers license in their hand,[/quote]
The elderly and the poor have much more difficulty obtaining those forms of ID. And some states have greatly added to the difficulty. For example, soon after Alabama passed a voter ID law, they closed 31 motor vehicle offices, mostly in poorer (Black) areas.
[b]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-01/alabama-closes-dmv-offices-a-year-after-voter-id-law-kicks-in[/b]

I've got NO PROBLEM with the theory of voter ID, as long as it's free and easy. I DO have a problem with the practice of making it differentially harder for the elderly & working poor. [b]https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/challenge-obtaining-voter-identification[/b] "Voter ID laws have been estimated by the U.S. Government Accountability Office to reduce voter turnout by 2-3 percentage points, translating to tens of thousands of votes lost in a single state." [b]https://www.aclu.org/news/civil-liberties/block-the-vote-voter-suppression-in-2020/[/b]

[c=BF0000][i]PLEASE MAKE IT FREE AND EASY FOR POOR AND ELDERLY CITIZENS TO OBTAIN VOTER ID. PLEASE STOP USING "VOTER ID" AS A TOOL FOR VOTER SUPPRESSION.[/i][/c]
@Geo686 No. I'm telling you it's the job of every state to make it EASY for the poor and the elderly to obtain voter ID. And a drivers' license, in particular, is a bad requirement. Many urban poor don't get drivers licenses. My kids work with many disabled people who don't have drivers licenses. Many elderly let their licenses lapse.

You need to provide an alternate ID with no fees and no other barriers to entry. How about if Alabama builds "Voter ID vans" and sends them into those areas where they've closed down so many motor vehicle offices.

Voter ID needs to be inclusive; not a tool for blocking the voting ability of legal citizens. BTW, I notice you have wisely abandoned all efforts to claim "massive voter fraud" or a "stolen election." Just for yuks, here are some other false voter fraud claims that didn't pan out.

Did they ever find even a SINGLE ONE of the alleged "millions" of ballots printed by foreign countries?

If the machines were altering the count like Trump claimed, how come the hand count matched the machine count so closely???
[quote]In all, there were 126 counties within 10 votes of their original vote tally, according to the audit data. Of those counties, 54 counties matched their initial results exactly. No county had an error rate higher than 0.73% compared to their original results.[/quote]
https://www.ajc.com/politics/breaking-georgia-manual-recount-confirms-biden-victory/B7LNNHYZOVGKZBUVAT7NZT3VZE/


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No, i'm not going to watch a 56 min video just to see if there are any facts to be gleaned. If you have any substantiated facts, please post them and link to them in written form. I read 3X faster than talking heads talk, and I can skim to the key points far faster. A link to an endless opinion video does NOT constitute an assertion of substantiated facts.
Geo686 · 41-45, M
@ElwoodBlues https://rumble.com/v1i3tvj-the-scandalous-2020-election-and-2000-mules-are-back-in-the-news-ep.-1842-t.html
Geo686 · 41-45, M
@ElwoodBlues https://rumble.com/v16m2dl-dinesh-dsouza-full-alt.html
Here's info about a SECOND lawsuit involving "True the Vote." This suit was filed by a Michigan company called Konnech. U.S. District Judge Kenneth Hoyt (Reagan appointee) demanded evidence for their public claims from "True the Vote." In the end, two officers of "True the Vote," founder, Catherine Engelbrecht & board member Gregg Phillips, were jailed after being found in contempt of court.

[quote] Oct 7, 2022
In podcasts and elsewhere, True the Vote has repeatedly claimed that it directed “analysts” to hack Konnech’s servers, which the group claims were in China and thus proof of the company’s work on behalf of the Chinese Communist Party. After Konnech sued True the Vote last month for defamation, Hoyt ordered True the Vote to turn over any Konnech data the organization still had and disclose the name of the individual who’d helped them obtain it.

The contentious tone in the courtroom demonstrated the precarious position the lawsuit has put True the Vote in. The group has spearheaded the spread of voter fraud conspiracy theories in Texas and beyond for years — most recently by producing the debunked voter-fraud documentary “2000 Mules” — and has faced very little accountability for it. Now True the Vote is trying to maintain its conspiratorial claims about Konnech while also denying accusations that it illegally hacked data or misled the public about the company and its CEO.[/quote]

"True the Vote" did not substantiate their widely publicized claims of obtaining "hacked data" from China.
[quote] Nov 1, 2022
Engelbrecht and Phillips have previously claimed that they and their analysts hacked a server and gained access to Konnech’s data and that the information on the server corroborated their unproven claims of election fraud. True the Vote has not offered any evidence that they successfully hacked Konnech, or that Konnech was involved in any election fraud.

The court order, in part, required True the Vote’s leaders to hand over the allegedly hacked documents, identify the people involved in the alleged hack, and confidentially tell Konnech how they hacked their system. Englebrecht and Phillips were jailed after they failed to comply with those parts, by the judge’s Monday morning deadline. [/quote]

And then there are the financial "irregularities" that enriched officers of "True the Vote."
[quote] Jun 5, 2023
On Monday, the nonprofit watchdog group Campaign for Accountability called for an investigation into True the Vote, which has made repeated false claims about voter fraud in elections. The complaint said True the Vote may have violated state and federal law when the charity used donations to issue loans to Engelbrecht, its founder, and lucrative contracts to Gregg Phillips, a longtime director. The organization also failed to disclose the payments to insiders in its tax returns, including excessive legal bills paid to its general counsel at the time, who filed election-related lawsuits in four states, the complaint said. [/quote]

On the strength of claims made by "True the Vote," Konnech CEO Eugene Yu was charged in California with illegally sending data about poll workers to China. When "True the Vote" failed to substantiate those claims, all charges were dropped.
[quote] Nov 10, 2022
Los Angeles County DA drops charges against CEO of Konnech The abrupt reversal of charges marks the end of a case that prominent election deniers cited as evidence of foul play in American elections.[/quote]
Geo686 · 41-45, M
@ElwoodBlues you know, Byte dance, a company controlled by the CCP, is head of the fact checkers on Facebook. Maybe I should go there for all this information. Then I’m sure I will get the truth.
Geo686 · 41-45, M
@ElwoodBlues it’s really very simple. Make certain that everyone who votes has a drivers license in their hand, and proof of citizenship of the United States and proof of address. Having presented on the day of the voting, and let them vote. Absentee ballots need to be verified with a signature. If you just stop fucking around, you’ll stop finding out.
Most of “we the people” are sleeping and need to wake up. They are in the lion’s mouth and don’t even realize it!
Prison1203 · 61-69, M
What? No way, freaking liberals don’t do anything to fix the problem they made, they wait until the feds tell them to do it, probably moved them all in with the illegals in the expensive hotels
Geo686 · 41-45, M
@Bumbles fucking moron
Bumbles · 51-55, M
What you’re describing is a fascist state, if you’re comparing them to Nazis. And if you’re withholding your vote to give to Trump, you are accepting that and obviously want "Hitler" to win. I really don’t want to see anymore of your posts. Our First Amendment gives you the right to post them, which I support. But I’m exercising my right not to be part of the audience.
JaggedLittlePill · 46-50, F
Fucking moron.
Renaci · 36-40
No vote, no voice, so shut the fuck up, no one wants to hear your blah blah blah screed.
@Geo686 You wouldn't last five seconds, I grew up with older brothers, I also have seven years experience in private security, including sites in some of the roughest areas of Las Vegas, moron.
Geo686 · 41-45, M
@NativePortlander1970 have another Twinkie. Am I supposed to be scared now? You’re a laughing stock.
@Geo686 Like I said, you would not last five seconds.

 
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