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I Think Donald John Trump, Is A Moron

Mark my words... Trump will NOT make America Great again.. just watch... see if i am right. All he will do, all he can do is further alienate America from the rest of the world..but what do you expect if you vote in a narcissistic idiot who's campaign was based on insulting everyone and inciting hatred.. I was no Hilary fan but most of Trump's campaign was based on whipping up hatred and racism.. I truly fear for America - things weren't great there but this will just create a whole new bunch of problems.. I don't think many Americans realise how precarious is America's position.. how most of the rest of the world feel about America.. Americans think they are great and they truly don't know and don't want to know differently..

Personally I've always loved Americans... well what I thought of as most Americans - I know them to be sane, reasonable, reasoning people who, for the most part hate the bad things, the racism etc. But from this election it seems that MOST Americans have voted for Trump... so all I can think is that MOST Americans are of the Trump crazies kind :( Perhaps i was too optimistic.. and I should remember this is a nation who voted for president RAT-GUN and the utter idiot Bush who we all saw regularly on TV making messed up speeches and making a fool of himself.. he was relatively harmless though.. we all just laughed at him and felt sorry for America having such a poor president to represent them...

Trump is a whole new ball game.. this insecure man with no class, no style and no manners will actively damage America...and that Americans couldn't see this coming makes me think most really aren't that bright :(

It's not like we here are perfect, we sure aren't but no one here thought Trump was any good, we discussed and debated and smiled wryly.. but we hoped America wasnt that dumb to let him win...

I think i need to take some time out from here.. i know so many Trump crazies hang out here and there are too many of a certain kind that go with that territory; women hating, racist goons who's only answer to everything is to insult and belittle..

I think I will let some dust settle.. wait for Americans to really start to see the result of their choice...

May heaven or whatever is in charge of fate help America.. it's gonna need it
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Heartlander · 80-89, M
:) If he misbehaves we'll impeach him.

Considering the alternative choice, it's OK.
Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F
I hope you are right.. thing is..there was a choice.. but people chose him.. I worry about you guys x
yllacsar · 51-55, M
There's that too...
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@Adaydreambeliever: thanks for worrying. Remember, we didn't elect a king or an emperor. We elected what we hope will be a servant to the people.
Allthingscurious · 46-50, M
And leave Pence in charge? That's not any better.
Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F
@Heartlander And he's misbehaved immeasurably and repeatedly, he's actively working against the people, he hasn't kept his promises... and still he's there.. not impeached..
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@Adaydreambeliever

And he's misbehaved immeasurably and repeatedly

No more than Winston Churchill misbehave when the popular British establishment insisted that they find common ground with Adolph Hitler.

I don't think cleaning the Washington swamp is "misbehaving".
Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F
@Heartlander well that's clearly your opinion but with respect your opinion is very selective. The two things were entirely different, i am not well up on war history, (it's funny, and one could speculate quite sarcastically on how it is that Americans are often so obsessed with the WW2). But taking your statement at face value, insisting common ground be found IS prudent often, (don't let's get all morally indignant when the only reason America joined the war was... ) War is a TERRIBLE thing, and should be avoided at all costs, imo no one should ever go to war unless there is NO alternative.. You DO need to remember that was just one step in the process and we DID go to war and at that time America seemed pretty reluctant to help out despite some high pleading from Winston C... Now I appreciate that this is entirely alien it seems to America's stance in the last living memory of years when they actively choose to start wars that were NOT sanctioned by the international body... so they went against advice and commonsense.. Again this was at great cost.. and anyone who says differently .... let's remember our friend Strumpet referred to this period as America never wins wars... well from the horses mouth....

PS just for clarity, I wasn't referring to any swamp clearing.. it warrants my attention not...but what does concern me is the concentration and highlighting that whilst ignoring his constant lies, his failure to implement promises, his NOT improving diddly for those who voted for him, his ill-mannered and barely literate tantrums, his appalling behaviour in Paris, and other world arenas, his standing out in the crowd for an oaf with no class, his total lack of diplomatic prowess and indeed the fact he has already only narrowly avoiding taking you into yet another bloody war which will only further deplete your resources and kill more of your people, (and our lot like the bloody pathetic idiots they are will probably yet again drag us into it,) I could go on... but I am guessing you have been able to glean that I disagree :P
Heartlander · 80-89, M
his failure to implement promises, his NOT improving diddly for those who voted for him, his ill-mannered and barely literate tantrums

Oh, you must have been reading too many of our leftist newspapers. They are far greater liars than our President Trump.

Trump has accomplished wonderful things so far, and he's not even at the halfway point of his 1st term. So let's see:

1 - Reduced and simplified personal taxes. Our democrats call it "crumbs" but an extra $200 a month isn't crumbs for most of us.

2 - Reduced our corporate taxes from 35% to 21% and cleared out a lot of the gibberish in the tax code that required accounting creativity to sneak around. This resulted in business profitability and higher wages for employees. Some employers used the tax cuts to give their people $bonuses. Also to pay higher dividends to stockholders, which encouraged Americans to invest in US companies rather than Chinese companies.

3 - Job Growth and record low unemployment. Our unemployment rate is now below 4%! Obama and our Democrats took America up to near 10% unemployment when they undermined our home mortgage and banking system. They watered down the value of home mortgaged and that damn near took us into another depression.

4 - Bringing American companies to America. Thank God! Our tax system and regulations were sending American companies overseas where they could exploit workers and pay no taxes.

5 - Dramatic reduction in illegal immigration. Illegal immigration is considered a political boost for our Democrats because illegals are counted when determining "seats" in our house of representatives. So if the state of California can sneak and hide 2 to 3 million illegals they get 2 or 3 more seats in our congress, and a another state that plays fair loses 2 or 3 seats.

6 - North Korea talking!

7 - Iran screaming. That's good since they keep threatening to blow Israel off the face of the earth. Meanwhile, our previous Secretary of State has been holding secret meetings there and most Americans consider such behavior as treasonous.

There's still much left to do. Trump isn't really a Republican, so there's not much help from his party. Like they undermined our recovery from that horrible Obamacare. And there are still wanna-be Republican Presidential hopefuls that have become obstructionist. But I believe Trump still has the backing of the people.

Before judging American politics by what you see in the US news or on the internet, you have to realize that we Americans have less trust in our newspapers and TV news than we have for even politicians. Right now, the US press is throwing everything, even the kitchen sink, at Trump. They are organizing anti-Trump marches, blaming him for everything, and calling him every bad name possible .... yet he can still singlehandedly take them on and in 5 minutes the American people are cheering for him and booing the leftist.
Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F
@Heartlander snigger... you did make me chuckle.. but anyway I digress... I respect you as a person but.. when you say things like, ' you must have been reading too many leftist newspapers. They are far greater liars than our President Trump.' - You entirely and utterly discredit yourself.. it's illogical, it doesn't do you credit.. you forget.. I am not in your country... so I don't have access to these leftist publications you mention.. it's kinda odd you would think like that.. .it says a lot... a real lot...
It's indicative too your use of the words leftists... I have encountered people who use that language before.. usually all of the same ilk... and usually all entirely believing fairy stories about Strumpet's track record, his prowess and ability to do anything even remotely good... Don't forget that language is nothing to do with me.. but it's interesting how much it colours and clouds your thoughts, almost like you cannot entertain anything other than these fabled leftists you seem so scared of...

As an outsider.. I get the impression from what you say that there are just two factions, all slagging each other off, all reading and believing only their own favoured version and declaring anything else FAKE news..

And that leads neatly on to your beliefs about his success.. it's funny to me how the Strumpeters all seem to believe he is doing great in the light of evidence to the contrary... it's odd... almost like some form of brainwashing is at work... fascinating..

PS, I am not a fan of revising old stories but just to say... it's odd that you think I read American newspapers???? Seriously??? Think about that one.. we judge the complete asswipe idiot moron of a leader by his own words and his own actions.. or are you saying what comes out of his illiterate unintelligent mouth is also fake news?? Hilarious... oh and North Korea.. yea real good job.. they aren't talking to south korea and dumbass Trump pulled out of talks...
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@Adaydreambeliever

I am not in your country... so I don't have access to these leftist publications you mention.. it's kinda odd you would think like that.

I know. I imagine European media is echoing or regurgitating what comes from the US media, so whether you read the biased New York Times or its echo from Paris or London, it's still the "leftist" propaganda news you are getting there. As I recall, Our King Obama made his coronation tour of Europe where he was cheered for no other reason than that he rode the propaganda wave that accompanied him.

Leftist


Yes, we call them different things. Leftist may not be the best term. Fascist would probably be a better term. Terms like Leftist and Liberals don't have definitions that are common to everyone, but fascist pretty much does.

We see Trump's role as one to dismantle Fascist monster running Washington. Those who claim he is dividing America are the fascist who have a vested interest in keeping American divided. Trump isn't a king or leader for life or such. He's an instrument of the people. Like Churchill, once done he will either step aside or be cast aside.
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@Adaydreambeliever

They are far greater liars than our President Trump.' - You entirely and utterly discredit yourself.

A numerical count would take days, but I would estimate that Obama's lies outnumber Trumps by 8 or 9 to one. More importantly, Obama's lies had far greater consequences.

Pick one:

- Trump lied about the crowd size.

- Obama lied about Obamacare.

Which do you think is the greatest lie?
Have you considered that Trump's distortions about crowd size was simply to draw media enemies into the open and pull in the conservative base which he held by a thread?

Conservative lackluster support of Republican candidates are based on Republican candidates being intimidated by the leftist US media where the tail tries to wag the dog. It accounts for Georg Bush's failure to accomplish much, and possibly set him up for the Iraq misadventures. To win the hearts and minds of America's conservative majority, AKA the silent majority, a Republican president has to hold his own against the leftist media's attempts to intimidate. Something Ronald Reagan did with flare, and Bush 1 and 2 failed to do.
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@Adaydreambeliever

And that leads neatly on to your beliefs about his success.. it's funny to me how the Strumpeters all seem to believe he is doing great in the light of evidence to the contrary... it's odd... almost like some form of brainwashing is at work... fascinating..

So, what exactly about lower taxes, immigration control, more and better jobs and a stronger economy do you think insignificant?

What about the release of prisoners held by North Korea do you regard as a failure?

Do you believe that the end of the 65 year war against North Korea should happen by simply bowing to Kim Jong Un and telling him: Whatever you say, let's just get this over.

Do you think Trump should call off the heat with Iran and give them another $Billion so they can finish the job that Adoph Hitler started?
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@Adaydreambeliever

well that's clearly your opinion but with respect your opinion is very selective. The two things were entirely different, i am not well up on war history, (it's funny, and one could speculate quite sarcastically on how it is that Americans are often so obsessed with the WW2).

What an interesting comment and a complete flip-flop from my personal observations.

While I may be personally obsessed with WW2, it mostly relates to my service with the NATO forces in England and France, and a bit of unique opportunities and privileged vantage points.

Most Americans didn't share, and didn't care to live my experiences, and while WW2 documentaries still are popular TV programs, most Americans' interest wouldn't measure up to obsessions.

As I recall, Anglian TV was likewise obsessed with WW2, at least as much as I was.

I suspect your current disinterest in WW2 is because it's been replaced with concern for Scotland bolting and Norther Ireland wanting to follow, and whether to stay or go with EU. I personally though think that's all a part of you Brits not tidying up after the war.




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Anopenheart · 56-60, M
there have been over 9000 documented lies of donald trump, and you want to compare it all to one supposed lief obama about "keeping your doctor"? by the way, that was not a lie.. there is no place in obamacare that makes you give up your doctor.. so, your example is a lie@Heartlander
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