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I Hate Donald Trump

I don't know Trump, not personally anyway. I know only what he says and does, and 99% of it is objectionable in the extreme. What I hate, if that's the proper word, is how he has given voice to the xenophobic population of our country, of how he has divided our country as never before.

People with small, bitter/hateful, self-serving minds have flooded to his cause, and much to my chagrin, there seems to be many of them. Many of these people have lived small lives. Never traveled, never seen what is on the other side of their city/community, much less their state or country. They simply live and think small. They have no notion for anything not them. Worse, they fear and hate anything not them, and to my way of thinking, that is 180 degrees out and totally inconsistent with what we are, or have espoused our country to be. It goes against our founding principles, against what I and many before me fought for.

Worse yet is that there are large numbers of people who follow and support him who have not lived small lives. These people are knowingly destroying our country with their greed, the self-serving, privileged actions and rhetoric.

It is a time I thought I would never see. I am ashamed of us as a country; but proud to stand against Trump and his followers, and ever will be. Time, reason and decency will prevail, of that I am certain. Until then I stand opposed to this man and his followers, totally, absolutely, and without equivocation.

I could go on and on, but I suspect you get what my thoughts are.
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frequentlyme · 70-79, M
To suggest that Trump was the only alternative to Hillary, and therefore is now the best President, is a suggestion that in and of itself, is inane. To say brashness, or that he is a rich man and therefore somehow a good choice, is inane. Look at how he became rich - no, really, take a look and study it.

I do not think Hillary was the best choice, nor am I a Liberal. I've voted in every Presidential election except one, and that was years and years ago, and I've never voted along any party line. I've voted both for Republican and Democratic nominees.

Regardless, he is not a good, or even decent President, and it doesn't matter who went before, who he won against, or anything other than is he good for the country. Actually, only time will tell; but for me, for now, I stand with what I said.
PennyHenny · F
@frequentlyme Unfortunately he was the only alternative, not for lack of other runners, no. But because, and I repeat yet again, the partyline of the whole thing pushed third party and non party options so far to the side that their running...meant nothing. It was very unfortunate. I had a couple I was rooting for myself.

But people got so caught up in mud slinging and acting like they're so novel toting the catchphrases written by others that they forgot there were options.

But what do I know? I have to wait for next election to have a say.
veoh112 · 22-25, F
@frequentlyme I completely agree and I also agree that Hilary is not the better choice. Yes unfortunately he won and as what I am seeing currently is not good for either party. And the republican side looks even more dumb because he didnt even do most of the things he promised. And if they want to make the democrat side (obama) look like a awful president then they should do the same thing for Trump. That is the main thing the right side brings up when they talk about Obama.
PennyHenny · F
@veoh112 ALL political sides have some stupid elements to themselves. It's just that the dems and reps both are stuck in full retard like a couple kids from the special ed class trying to see who's tougher by slamming their heads full throttle against a wall. No matter who wins that game they're still lost.
frequentlyme · 70-79, M
@PennyHenny You won't get an argument from me about the smugness of the Democratic party/ticket in this past election. Totally inadequate, based more or less on the fact the Hillary was a woman, was more or less a political celebrity, and that the party could win with here. Party politics, on both sides, is stupid and ruinous for all.

Many people don't vote for or support third party candidates because they feel their voice will go unheard. That's unfortunate.

And, you obviously do think, so while you have to wait until the next election, I suspect you will be a fully informed voter, which is never a bad thing.
PennyHenny · F
@frequentlyme Thank you, but I've a feeling I'm going to be a bad voter, to be honest. I'm conservative, agnostic, analytical to a bad point and opinonated. The left hates me because I don't fit their expectations and the right leaves me alone as long as I pay taxes. So if I don't fall in the middle in the next round I'm most likely going to have no choice but to vote more towards the right, unless a good contender comes up.

To be honest, I'd have rather seen Pence run a full ticket. While everyone focuses on Trump and act like brats because he has small hands, Pence is the one behind the scenes making things smoother for everyone all around.
veoh112 · 22-25, F
@PennyHenny Well who says you have to be on the right or left. I mostly qualify as being on the left because my beliefs are very liberal and I believe in equality. But as you were saying about paying taxes, everything has to do with economy and socio-economics and fundamentally I am mostly lower middle class. Oh boy lets not bring up pence please.
TexChik · F
@frequentlyme Trump was a much better choice than theckinton crime Family .... and unlike the Clintons , Trumps wealth means he can’t be bought ... as the Clintons and obama were ...in no other time has corrouption been so rampant as with obama ... trump is the answer
veoh112 · 22-25, F
I would say its the other way around and Trumps background history isn't good either. Trumps wealth shows that he isn't even a good businessman as he has gone bankrupt multiple times but has the fiances to back it up because of his family dollar. Why do people like you think that rich people are smart and intelligent even though you fail to realize the lower class and building constructing everything you are doing.
TexChik · F
@veoh112 he has 4 bankruptcies . 4, He used the available protections under the law to his advantage as they were intended when those 4 ventures failed , yet he created over 250 multimillion dollar companies and is a billionaire , a world renowned businessman, a media mogul , and a television personality and the President ...WHAT , may I ask , have you ever done ? Besides sit on your ass and criticize... ?
PennyHenny · F
@veoh112 When you compare a handful of business failures against scores of huge victories you see how that argument falls flat.
veoh112 · 22-25, F
@PennyHenny Its because these victories are non assisted either way it falls back because has the fiances to prove otherwise. Just because some is rich dose not mean they are more intelligent as I said, this is the sort of system they want.