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I Think Donald John Trump, Is A Moron

The idiot at work -- He has banned transgender people from serving in the military, and lies about the reason, using medical costs as a reason. See this article: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-military-idUSKBN1AB1TM
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Sicarium · 46-50, M
The military doesn't exist to pander to every identity politics group.
@Sicarium They take males. They take females. So this is just about transitioning from one to the other. It is not about identity politics. It is about treating all people equally. It should not be about identity politics but Trump is making it a political issue to cater to his extreme right wing base.
Sicarium · 46-50, M
@Humanist321 False premise, the military doesn't take every male and female. So they do not treat everyone equally. They can't. That's not the way this works.

And of course it's about identity politics. You couldn't care less about the males the military doesn't take, only transgenders. You're only concerned because of identity politics, which explains your rhetoric.
SW-User
@Humanist321 You can't "transition" to the other sex. You seem like the moron here.
USAalltheway · 31-35, M
@Sicarium Exactly. Allowing transgenders into the military is nothing more than identity politics pandering. They don't allow every man and every woman into the military, so why shouldn't they just exclude an entire category of people? It's not like there are any transgenders who are fit to serve anyway.
Sicarium · 46-50, M
@USAalltheway Be up front and honest. Games just make you look like an ass.

Let me put it another way, the military doesn't exist to pay for your hormone therapy.
USAalltheway · 31-35, M
@SW-User Yeah, you can't "transition" to the other sex, and therefore transgenders shouldn't be allowed in the military. Checkmate, liberals.
USAalltheway · 31-35, M
@Sicarium I am up front and honest. And you're absolutely right. Hormone therapy represents a huge percentage of the military budget, and allowing transgenders in the military is exactly one and the same thing as having the military pay for their hormone therapy.
USAalltheway · 31-35, M
@Sicarium Plus it's not like they're giving their country back anything in return. The transgenders are the only ones who benefit from transgenders being in the military.
Sicarium · 46-50, M
@USAalltheway No, you're a troll relying on passive-aggressive bullshit and reverse psychology, Which means you have nothing serious to offer anyone.

The percentage of the budget is irrelevant. Expecting the military to pay for hormone treatments completely destroys the false narrative of treating people equally.
USAalltheway · 31-35, M
So if you don't agree with someone they're automatically a troll? I guess liberals aren't so tolerant after all.

But you're right about the second part. The real issue here is not whether transgenders should be allowed in the military, it's whether the military should be expected to pay for hormone therapy. And what we find is that the liberals are wrong once again, so that settles that. If the military pays for hormone therapy then that destroys the false narrative of treating people equally, and if you can't have the false narrative of treating people equally then the only logical conclusion is to ban transgenders from serving. You're very insightful to have realized that this is the way things really work.
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USAalltheway · 31-35, M
@imLobo America IS the USA. I guess you don't understand that because you're a liberal.
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@USAalltheway you and Sicarius are using a false premise... of course they don't take everyone -- you will be denied for intelligence, academic, juvenile record, mental illness, drugs, etc -- and of course transgenders, males and females, should meet the criteria that everyone has to meet -- but whether you identify as male or female should not be relevant.
Sicarium · 46-50, M
@Humanist321 That was your premise, not mine. And you just totally destroyed your own argument by acknowledging that the military does not treat everyone equally. So, try again.
USAalltheway · 31-35, M
@Humanist321 I guess you liberals don't understand that logic doesn't apply to the real world.