A possibly sensitive question…

@Graylight Couldn't agree more, however if this were anyone else they would be Cancelled, most likely.

@Graylight Yes. That’s what prompted the question, tbh. When and where I grew up, Ashkénaze Jewish were considered (and considered themselves) [b]white[/b]. A separate ethnicity, but still white. So from that perspective, the Holocaust might seem more ethnic than race based. Goldberg wasn’t denying it occurred (if I’m understanding the offense).

@bijouxbroussard The problem, as I've heard it explained is that hitler viewed Jews as a race. While most Jews will tell you being Jewish isn't about "race", and there are Jews of every "race" and skin color that wasn't the way he saw it, so for hitler yes, it was about race. Goldberg made it sound as if it was just a squabble between two groups of white people when that wasn't what it was about at all.

I've been trying to remember, I think this wasn't the first time Goldberg stirred up something like this but I'm drawing a blank on what it was that she said. (A number of years back?)

@bijouxbroussard @robb65 It's a complicated area and she based her view on her personal experience and understanding of history; none of it was based terribly in ignorance. She was never disrespectful in the footage I've seen and has done a small tour falling on her sword for the crowds.

We'd never treat kids who try to learn like this. Why would we assault someone else simply for trying to make sense of a situation?

In the spirit of edification, there were many groups targeted by the Nazis: [i]Among the first victims of persecution...were political opponents—primarily Communists, Social Democrats, and trade unionists. ...Jehovah's Witnesses and male homosexuals, too. The Nazis persecuted those they considered to be racially inferior. Nazi racial ideology primarily vilified Jews, but also propagated hatred for Roma (Gypsies) and Black people.
*History.com[/i]

With all that's happening in the world, you'd think the media would have something else to do.

@Graylight I’d be willing to bet it’s more of a "gotcha" by Whoopi’s enemies than actual offense.

@Graylight This is a complex issue. Even the Bible says that Jews are contrary to all men - 1Thessalonians 2:14-16.

Remember, the Jews helped the Muslims to invade Spain and fought with them against the Christians for over 700 years.

They were domestic enemies against Germany and tried to destroy it in WWI and institute a communist government like they had done in Russia. They even wrote the Soviet constitution. And before WWII they had started a world-wide boycott against German goods and services. And given all of the history it was only natural that the two sides regarded each other as deadly enemies. The Zionists wanted to force all of the lower class Jews out of Germany to move to Palestine, where they would build it up for the upper class Jews who would arrive later in comfort. The problem was that a lot of the lower class Jews were not interested in that agenda so they stayed in Germany. There were tens of thousands of Jews in Germany when the shooting stopped.

Once the Nazis started rounding up the Jews and throwing them in the concentration camps, they gave them special uniforms to plainly distinguish them from all of the other groups. When you look at pictures of camp liberations you will see lots of smiling, well-fed Jews in their unique uniforms. The other ethnic groups were skin and bones but they were in better condition than the Indians that Churchill had starved to death in India.

And, although the Nazis were racist, they were less racist than the Americans and British were. The Americans were so racist toward Black Americans they wouldn't allow them to directly fight the White Nazis or to make war equipment to use against them. The Germans did have some Black troops in their army. In the meantime the Americans were lynching their Black citizens and maintaining a system of rigid apartheid.

So, Whoopi was basically correct in her opinion. People flip out over Hitler because he was more interested in killing other White people than he was in killing Black and Brown people. Of course, he might have gotten around to that if he had won but he lost the war when he fired the first shot. He didn't have the system necessary to fight a modern war. He would have been OK in the 19th Century but he was a loser in the 20th Century, just like Japan and Italy were. And have you noticed that no one ever mentions the atrocities committed by the Italians and Japanese or the ones done by the Americans and British?

Heck, King Leopold II of Belgium killed 10-12 million Black Africans in the Congo and chopped off countless arms and no one ever said a mean word about him.

@Diotrephes Again, I'm not debating the content of her message - it's a complex issue not of my lineage and I don't pretend to be anything but a casual student of Judaism. I just have to wonder at all the Screamers thumping their chests about freedom and the right to express themselves who then turn around and suggest TV hosts (and students, and parents, and teachers) not ask questions to investigate a matter.

@Graylight I agree with you. The point is that the "holocaust" is pure propaganda. Critics can dump on every other issue under the Sun but as soon as they express doubt about one of the Jewish fairy tales they get drawn and quartered.

If the Nazis were so intent on exterminating the Jews they were the lousiest killers in humanity. They built housing for them and gave them special uniforms to wear throughout the war. And look at all of the survivors. The easiest people to kill would have been the children but it seems that they gave them special protection, considering the number of them who are still alive and bleating today.

America's favorite hobby during WWII was burning people alive in Germany and in Japan. Imagine how many kids got roasted without a second thought.

If you want to understand the Zionist propaganda read Theodor Herzl's [b][i]The Jewish State,[/i][/b]. You can Google it and read it free on the internet.

This is a very complex issue and a million pages would barely scratch the surface