I Am Going to Say Something Controversial

There are two political utopian ideas that, despite their ignorance of human nature,are quite popular these days.

One is that of the libertarians/voluntarists: They think if state did not exist and there were no taxes, society would work better out of free will. Apparently, looking at what happens in the world every day is not enough to persuade them of the falsehood of their angelic view of human nature.

The other is that of the egalitarian/leftists: They think everyone should have the same outcome in life. Apparently, looking at what happens in the world every day is not enough to persuade them that we are not equal, but some are more intelligent, hard-working and virtuous than others.

I totally agree with the followers of these utopias founding their own countries and follow then there. Much better than spoiling the already existing ones with them.

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Mugin16 · 46-50, M

There are quite a few regions/areas in the world where the state does not exist - i.e. the government of that country is not able to control this area and to enforce its laws - and where the inhabitants of that region do not have to pay taxes (they might have to pay protection money instead). These regions include parts of Somalia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Mali, Burma, Libya, the Sinai peninsula in Egypt, and others. Strangely enough Western liberatarians and classical liberals have not started to emigrate to those areas in order to escape the state and taxes. Go figure.

Cierzo · M

@Mugin16 They emigrate there, leftists to Venezuela and make the rest of the world a better place.

Mugin16 · 46-50, M

@Cierzo I am not aware of that. Do leftists from Spain really go to Venezuela? Even now with inflation running wild?

Cierzo · M

@Mugin16 Of course they do not. They love their paradies from the distance 😄

Mugin16 · 46-50, M

@Cierzo Have you forgot the word "should" in your previous reply then? :-)

That reminds of the Marxist academics who told and encouraged the leaders of independent Tanzania to create a socialist dictatorship but then stayed in the capitalist, democratic instead of moving to their (claimed) utopia. Hypocrites.