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emiliya · 22-25, F
Women use abortion as a form of birth control, but plenty of women in USA showed they care less about abortion than the important issues in the election. I am a woman and I think abortion is one of the greatest evils in society. If you think you do not want children, use contraception. The pill is easy to take, and there are several other highly effective contraceptives available to American women.
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@emiliya not all women do this
ImNotHungry · 36-40, M
@trollslayer OO! OO! OO!. Do me next 😂
emiliya · 22-25, F
@pripyatamusementpark That makes no sense. Any woman who failed to take the contraceptive and is having an abortion is using it as birth control. What else is she using it as?
emiliya · 22-25, F
@trollslayer What is the significance of this? Why aren't they using contraception?
emiliya · 22-25, F
@pripyatamusementpark A very small number of cases!
emiliya · 22-25, F
@pripyatamusementpark Do you care about those cases, or are you only using them in your attempt to make a point? Abortions due to severe fetal abnormality, fetal death, or severe issues with the woman are not your typical abortions. They have nothing to do with the “right to choose.” It is a medical issue which does not involve the woman desiring to get rid of her baby.
Most of the women getting abortions do so because they, after they got themselves pregnant, decide they don't want their baby and use abortion as late birth control.
Most of the women getting abortions do so because they, after they got themselves pregnant, decide they don't want their baby and use abortion as late birth control.
@emiliya can't I do both? ...I care and I'm making a point at the same time
Starcrossed · 41-45, F
@emiliya "Abortions due to severe fetal abnormality, fetal death, or severe issues with the woman are not your typical abortions."
The abortions that are happening the later 2nd term and 3rd term, the ones people are hell bent on banning are the "severe fetal abnormality, fetal death, or complications with mother's health", they ARENT the birth control abortions which occur ASAP in the 1st term and early 2nd.
Banning late term abortions with exceptions only serves to create barriers for the women who need healthcare in probably some of their worst times of their lives- THEY WANTED their babies but some complication has occurred... but now laws exist and instead of recognizing that a woman needs a "special exception late term abortion" the health care groups fear potential prosecution for performing an abortions they might've not been properly approved to do so they just don't do them at all - leaving mother's in dire situations.
These polcies have already lead to deaths where women were turned away from emergency rooms because they were administrativly deemed "not close enough to death" and have lead mother's to experience mental anguish of bring babies they know won't survive into the world only to watch them suffer for some hours/days before dying.
Plain and simple, forced births leads to a higher mortality rate for women. That is NOT prolife. If people were truly prolife, there'd be millions more funding available to support actually rearing a child. We wouldn't have thousands of older children in foster care waiting for adoption if people were truly prolife. We wouldn't have kids going without meals if we were truly prolife.
The abortions that are happening the later 2nd term and 3rd term, the ones people are hell bent on banning are the "severe fetal abnormality, fetal death, or complications with mother's health", they ARENT the birth control abortions which occur ASAP in the 1st term and early 2nd.
Banning late term abortions with exceptions only serves to create barriers for the women who need healthcare in probably some of their worst times of their lives- THEY WANTED their babies but some complication has occurred... but now laws exist and instead of recognizing that a woman needs a "special exception late term abortion" the health care groups fear potential prosecution for performing an abortions they might've not been properly approved to do so they just don't do them at all - leaving mother's in dire situations.
These polcies have already lead to deaths where women were turned away from emergency rooms because they were administrativly deemed "not close enough to death" and have lead mother's to experience mental anguish of bring babies they know won't survive into the world only to watch them suffer for some hours/days before dying.
Plain and simple, forced births leads to a higher mortality rate for women. That is NOT prolife. If people were truly prolife, there'd be millions more funding available to support actually rearing a child. We wouldn't have thousands of older children in foster care waiting for adoption if people were truly prolife. We wouldn't have kids going without meals if we were truly prolife.
emiliya · 22-25, F
@Starcrossed You seem to be assuming that women who have what you call “late term abortions” only have them for medical reasons, which is not true. Allowing late-term abortions, unless you mandate they can only be for a medical reason, means there will be women having them for other reasons. These reasons are not medical and should be ignored by all doctors.
Which states do you believe deny abortions when the woman's life is in danger? The cases with women dying are very rare. It happens after they or the hospital have made a mistake, missed the issue, or mishandled it in some way. If a doctor is not doing what the law allows them to do, the problem is not the law.
“Plain and simple, forced births leads to a higher mortality rate for women. That is NOT prolife. If people were truly prolife, there'd be millions more funding available to support actually rearing a child.”
There is no such thing as “forced births.” You are talking about women who fail to use contraception and get pregnant, knowing they will get pregnant. When you have sex, you get pregnant if you aren't taking contraceptive pill or using the other contraceptives, all available to women in America. We know this from the time we start menstruating. It is not the state's job to raise our children either. We need to have responsibility for ourselves. Raising children is also not as expensive as the anti-child pro-abortionists say it is.
Which states do you believe deny abortions when the woman's life is in danger? The cases with women dying are very rare. It happens after they or the hospital have made a mistake, missed the issue, or mishandled it in some way. If a doctor is not doing what the law allows them to do, the problem is not the law.
“Plain and simple, forced births leads to a higher mortality rate for women. That is NOT prolife. If people were truly prolife, there'd be millions more funding available to support actually rearing a child.”
There is no such thing as “forced births.” You are talking about women who fail to use contraception and get pregnant, knowing they will get pregnant. When you have sex, you get pregnant if you aren't taking contraceptive pill or using the other contraceptives, all available to women in America. We know this from the time we start menstruating. It is not the state's job to raise our children either. We need to have responsibility for ourselves. Raising children is also not as expensive as the anti-child pro-abortionists say it is.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@emiliya 100% false. A “late term” abortion when the life of the mother or baby is not at risk is called induced labor and a premature baby. No reasonable doctor would abort a healthy fetus after about 20 weeks unless there was a serious health issue. If it happens, those are isolated cases, period.
emiliya · 22-25, F
@trollslayer Why are you lying about this? Do you not know your country's laws? Doctors in a number of states will abort a fetus at a woman's request after 20 weeks.
Starcrossed · 41-45, F
@emiliya and again, women requesting abortions by the 20th week aren't doing so for birth control purposes. They'd have known they were pregnant for a good while. You don't see that you're pro-forced birth, if you were prolife, you would value the mother's life over an unhealthy pregnancy.
emiliya · 22-25, F
@Starcrossed The law says that women whose lives are in danger can get an abortion in all US states. If the doctors are not providing the abortions or the woman is not seeking medical care, it has nothing to do with the law. These cases are used by the pro abortion media and the facts are not considered. It is women, the media, and pro abortion establishment using hysteria and lying to you all.
Starcrossed · 41-45, F
@emiliya no, YOU are lying to us all. The media is reporting facts. Women ARE dying, actual documented cases not made up stories, and it was all because their states denied them access to an abortion that would have saved their lives. It's not hysteria to be outraged that WOMEN ARE DYING PREVENTABLE DEATHS. Women that weren't at all seeking abortion as birth control.
emiliya · 22-25, F
@Starcrossed Tell me every case of a woman needing abortion for medical reasons dying since the end of the evil Roe v. Wade in June 2022, and I will make it my mission to find the truth in them all. Then, I will tell you what the truth is.
Starcrossed · 41-45, F
emiliya · 22-25, F
@Starcrossed What a surprise! You failed.
Starcrossed · 41-45, F
@emiliya oh because that's totally something someone could do in 5 minutes 🙄
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